The Road to Success: Khallion

Bouyon is becoming more and more popular. We’re joined by Dominican bouyon artist Khallion, and he takes us from his early days in a rap and pop group to the life-changing event that forced him to step away from music   and rebuild his entire direction with a new mindset.

• Kalion’s early music path and the origins of Choeb 
• The accident that derails his career and the role of counseling 
• The online bacchanal over similar-sounding songs and how he sees it 
• Why he prefers albums over singles and how he approaches production 
• Bouyon, soca, and why genre fighting holds the region back 
• Lack of artist support, business mindset, and building his own lane 
• New album tease and experimenting with a bouyon and kompa blend 

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Transcript

Cold Open And Travel To Dominica

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Welcome to the Soka Chronicles. So with Shans and Arke Yo.

SPEAKER_07 0:08

Welcome to episode 58 of Soka Chronicles, the podcast that brings you everything Soka. I'm Arca Yo, and I'm the digit sitting next to the one and only Sharns. Yo. Yo.

SPEAKER_12 0:22

I say Yo.

SPEAKER_07 0:25

I thought you were gonna keep it to the one. I was like, am I gonna talk now or oh there's another yo coming.

unknown 0:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 0:30

But yeah, here we are.

SPEAKER_12 0:32

Keep them in suspense, you know?

SPEAKER_07 0:34

You know, if I need to get like uh if I need to get a jingle for Sharon's yo or something, just let me know as well.

SPEAKER_12 0:39

Yeah, no, we don't need that. Um I can do my own yo's. Okay, thank you. Don't take everything from me, okay?

SPEAKER_07 0:46

Thank you. Fair enough. Anyway, we are back with another interview this week. This month, even, sorry. We are traveling to Dominica. Ooh, the Buyon Hot. Yeah, yeah. The Buyon girl is gonna have a chat with a Buyon guy. Is that a thing? It's it's a thing now. It's a thing now. Yeah, man. Uh it's a long one as well. So I think we should not keep it too long, this introduction, and uh, you know, hurry up to the interview as well.

SPEAKER_12 1:19

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:20

Is there anything we should be mentioning before we get into it?

Brawlin London Plug And DJ Sharns

SPEAKER_12 1:23

100%. We need to talk about the song of the month, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12 1:27

And we also need to briefly talk about brawlin. Briefly. And we also need to just let everybody know that I'm dropping my cropover mix at the beginning of July. So stay tuned for that one. Stay tuned on my Instagram, stay tuned on my Saint Clade. You know what I mean? But first of all was your wash your handle again.

SPEAKER_07 1:47

What's it? My handle. International DJ Shores.

SPEAKER_12 1:50

Oh, piss off. Oh, I wasn't supposed to say that because that's after swearing. Thanks, Arkio, for drawing me out. It is at DJ S H A R N Z at DJ Shans, people. So follow me if you're not following already. You can also follow me on the tiki talkie, which is the same at DJ Shans. Yeah, we outside. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 2:18

We decide. Okay, fair. Okay. Well, I'll stay tuned for that, makes for sure. Because I, you know, I'm a big fan.

SPEAKER_12 2:25

Big fun.

SPEAKER_07 2:26

Ah, let's talk about Brawlin.

SPEAKER_12 2:33

Okay, cool. No, that was two jokes. Oh my god. Anyway, moving swiftly on because we don't have a lot of time. Brawlin, 11th of July. If you haven't got your ticket already, make sure you grab your ticket. If you're living in Europe, just take a cheeky flight to London. Come to Brawlin. I've got people flying in from the Nederlands and it's not RKO, but it's somebody from the Nederlands. I've got people coming down from, you know, outside of London. So just take that flight or take that train. Find your way to London because July 11th we're gonna be Brawlin. Go to www.tridentldn.com for your tickets and for more information.

SPEAKER_07 3:17

And don't wait too long because gas prices might be down now, but they might go up again. So you know, get going, get ordering, get flying, get training. Actually, a train is actually the best uh option, I guess.

SPEAKER_12 3:29

But it might be a bit expensive.

SPEAKER_07 3:31

Yeah. Anyway, be sure to be there. So let's talk music.

SPEAKER_12 3:37

Please,

Song Of The Month Choice

SPEAKER_12 3:38

let's do this. Let's do it. The song of the month, RKO. What is it this month?

SPEAKER_07 3:45

So this month is a song that the first time I listened to it, I was like, oh, that's a bit simple, isn't it? But sometimes simple is all you need in life. We're gonna have a listen to Problem Child with party time.

SPEAKER_12 3:59

Let's go.

SPEAKER_11 4:00

This is the song of the month.

SPEAKER_12 5:29

And that was the song of the month.

SPEAKER_07 5:33

Big tune. Big tune. Big tune.

SPEAKER_12 5:36

But RKO, I think that is enough for us talking. I say let's get straight into the interview because I cannot wait.

SPEAKER_07 5:45

Yeah, 100%. And you know what? I actually appreciate that we haven't that we haven't told the audience yet who we're gonna be interviewing. I'm sure people have read the title by now, but still for the people who didn't, it's gonna be a surprise, and I'm gonna keep you in suspense until you know we announce it during the interview.

SPEAKER_12 6:01

Exactly. But you obviously already know it's Dominica that we've flown to. We've just landed. Dominica Airport. Yeah? Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_07 6:09

Exactly. Here we are. Let's go! Let's go. Soca Chronicles. Today

Kalion Joins And Sets The Scene

SPEAKER_07 6:18

we are traveling to Dominica. We are gonna have a conversation with someone who's been in a music scene for a very long time, actually. And he's not just a musician, but way more than that. Kellyan, welcome. We're honored to have you, man.

SPEAKER_05 6:30

Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. I am honored to be here. I appreciate the um colour, and you know, thank you for such a warm welcome.

SPEAKER_12 6:39

Yeah, you're welcome.

SPEAKER_05 6:40

Yeah, no worries. The pleasure is all ours. Exactly.

SPEAKER_12 6:43

You're the superstar here. Honestly, we're just little people.

SPEAKER_05 6:48

Well, in my eyes, I see everything equal, so yeah. You might have to gas it in me, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 6:57

So I got you. I am the queen of gas. Trust me.

SPEAKER_07 7:00

That's true. That's very true. That's very true. So you you've been in the scene for for an extremely long time, because uh I've actually seen that you started out not in Soka per se, but uh more in like um pop hip hop rap group, if I'm not mistaken. That was actually quite popular in uh Dominica as well. Yes, and uh do I say this right? C O B C Hobie, right?

SPEAKER_05 7:23

You say the name right. Actually, people people I know mess the name of this is Sheo Sheo Bell Sheo B Hob. That's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 7:35

So how how did that how did that come about? The group or the name C Hob?

SPEAKER_05 7:40

Uh both, to be honest. Okay group. Well, I mean, I've been in music for a long time, and I've been I was just looking at a video a while ago where me and my friend did some songs that I was like 17 years ago on YouTube. And I was using my government name. Me and another friend called She. We was going to college, we was on a bus, and we was like, bro, you I think we should make a group, you know. And I was like, Why are we gonna call it? I say, well, just take two of us' names and make a name. So I said, your name is She. My name is Bert. So let's take it and make a name. So we make C-H-O-E-B. Yep, fair play. A friend, when we when we keep when we start dropping music, he was like, damn, bro, you guys, everything just hard, everything is hard. So he was like, What what you what that stands for? Combing hard on every beat?

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Fire boss, lava.

SPEAKER_07 8:39

Fair play, but also that's pretty cool. Welcome back, Sharon. That's dope, but that was still like you've you've done that for uh quite some time, right? For a couple of years, and and you reached quite some some fame, I think, in that group. Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_05 9:00

We probably had the group for three years, yeah. Like just just our college, like well, me and she was in college, but the other members was in high school, so oh damn, okay, young young, yeah, young yeah. They were starting.

SPEAKER_11 9:17

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_07 9:19

But then you transitioned to Soka and Boujon specifically, of course, some points. That was like 10 years later or more, but yeah, go ahead. Oh bro! Okay, yeah, well, I'm I'm skipping 10 years there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what happened in those 10 years before I skipped to the Boujon?

SPEAKER_05 9:34

Well,

COB, Accident, And Life Reset

SPEAKER_05 9:36

when at the moment when I was popular and things was getting you know more popular, and you know, I ended up I had an accident. Oh damn and someone someone died, you know. I never even spoke about that on actually.

SPEAKER_11 9:51

Oh damn.

SPEAKER_05 9:52

I had an accident and someone died, and it's like on the radio, it was they was talking about you know, C O B, C O B B R T, they just got nominated for soccer awards, and then the next one would say, Oh, popular artists from COB just got charged for manslaughter, and so it was it was it was tough for me. I was a young, I was a young person at the time.

SPEAKER_11 10:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:22

It was tough like going through that. And you know, at the time it wasn't about who caused the accident and who didn't cause the accident, it was about what was going on. I was I was emotionally scared, and trust me, I I thought I lost my mind. Actually, I was doing counseling and all that stuff. I I actually just remembering that now, like I never spoke about that.

SPEAKER_11 10:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:45

Like I was thinking about that. And um my lawyer told me that, you know, like we're going through this now, and you cannot still be popular. It's like it's not going hand in hand, you know, like someone grieving, and then you they're living your life, and you know, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 11:03

No, I can't.

SPEAKER_05 11:04

I just I I I pulled myself out. I told the members from the group that they can continue. But they said that if I'm not there in it, they're not in it. So that's when that's how it just makes it makes sense. And then years later, I won my case. I never broadcast that I won the case.

SPEAKER_10 11:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 11:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So some people they think I still have the case, but I won the cow. Yeah, you know, the criminal matter. I won the case, and that's when I I came to America and I started by putting out music.

unknown 11:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 11:38

Oh, you live in the US?

SPEAKER_05 11:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 11:41

Oh man, I didn't even know that. See, I'm no I'm not a research person, so there's me thinking you're living in in Dominica. That's crazy. Nice. How long have you lived in the US? Five years. That's crazy. Even I've been to Dominica within that time.

SPEAKER_06 12:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_12 12:04

Damn. Fair enough. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_05 12:07

Well, it was a promise I made to myself. I told myself that when I can leave Dominica, when I leave, I'm not coming back. Like in a rush, you know. And I I really was going back when I put that on that. When I did put that on that, like everybody was like requesting that I come, and I was really going back. But then my mom was like, remember what you said? Like all my life, like probably like 10 years. I go cut for like 10 years.

SPEAKER_12 12:35

Oh damn.

SPEAKER_05 12:37

Before, before, before, before it, before that, before that break when I went to America. And I I was like going through it, going through it, going through it. You know, it was really tough. And like, yeah, life was just going like life and and is like I was praying God like for me to come a dumb nicker because every time it was something else. Like, apart from that accident, it was always something, you know, somebody would trouble me, and then I would raise my hand, and my right would go for my wrong, and I would just go and cut up and it's like a break. Yeah, I never got like I never got convicted for nothing, you know. Like that. But like I was it was hard times, you know. And I was never in the wrong, but it was just the time trouble follows with me.

SPEAKER_12 13:27

You was never yeah, nah, no, I get that. I completely get that. So I'm glad that you made it out. It's a shame that you've not been back.

SPEAKER_05 13:36

I just relaxed, you know. I just relax now away. I just I I feel better.

SPEAKER_12 13:42

Okay, okay, fair enough. But how you did the would you say the counselling helped with everything?

SPEAKER_05 13:50

Yeah, well, the counselling did help. It was it did help because like like I was I was always seeing it like happening like every time. Oh yeah, the trauma there, yeah. One guy that used to drive for my dad, he had an accident. Not driving for my dad. He did he was driving for someone else at the time when he had the accident. And the same thing happened where two men died and he went to jail.

SPEAKER_11 14:16

Oh my god, you understand?

SPEAKER_05 14:18

Yeah, so it's like I know coming just coming from college, ending up in the same situation, yeah, and I was like, damn, I went to college to go to jail.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

Yeah, no, I get that.

SPEAKER_05 14:30

Yeah, it's mad. So it's like that that tripped me, and it's like yeah, it tripped me. Yeah, yeah, because I'm like completely understand that.

SPEAKER_12 14:41

You came out the other side, yeah, positive, you know what I'm saying? You're you're out of Dominica, you're a you're a bumbercler superstar right now, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm honoured to even be able to chat to you, you know what I'm saying? So big up yourself, honestly.

SPEAKER_07 15:00

Yeah, man, for sure.

SPEAKER_12 15:01

Big up yourself, but yeah, but we appreciate you sharing that anyway, because I know that these sort of things can be difficult to talk about, etc. etc. So honestly, appreciate that and the fact that you've never spoken about it before, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 15:14

So I never, I never, yeah, that's fair enough.

SPEAKER_12 15:19

But I think that we should talk about music. We go into we're gonna talk about music, and we're gonna talk about a certain little I'm gonna call it bacana that I saw online that I need to talk about as well. So RKO, what do you say? Should we talk music first or should we talk back and all first?

SPEAKER_07 15:42

Uh let's do back and all first because then we can focus on the music.

Online Dispute Over Similar Songs

SPEAKER_07 15:46

Do you want to go straight to the big one?

SPEAKER_12 15:47

Straight to the back and out because you know me. I love I love back and out.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

Okay. Let's go, let's go.

SPEAKER_12 15:54

Just I love a little back. When I'm not involved in back and out, I love it. As soon as I'm involved, nah, I'm not here for it. Like facts. Drop me out. Trust me. So I see online, I can't remember if it was on full Ahsoka or one of them soaker blog pages. I see a little a little back and forth. I can't remember if it was on on X or Twitter, whatever you want to call it, with you and another bouillon artist. So talk to me about that. What what happened?

SPEAKER_06 16:30

You you tell me what you said.

SPEAKER_12 16:32

What you mean? No, listen, let's not do that. Let's not do that.

SPEAKER_05 16:38

Listen, I go through so much thing on the internet, I need to know what you saw. Like, what you saw? What was it?

SPEAKER_12 16:43

Okay, okay. This is how you deal with the police, in it. Tell me, tell me what you know.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_12 16:50

I see what you're doing here. Alright, cool. I saw something about oh, the song sounds similar. Copying me, or something like that, something like that. Oh, don't quote me word for word. And I remember a quote saying, like, oh, release another song so I can copy it. Something like that. I I don't know. Don't don't quote me.

SPEAKER_05 17:09

Okay, I know what you're talking about. I know listen, I've been going through a lot of stuff on the internet, but I know what you're talking about now.

SPEAKER_12 17:14

So you're the king of Bakanal. Is that what you're telling me?

SPEAKER_05 17:17

Yo, so about that situation there. Honestly speaking, like, I never took it to the internet, you know. I saw it on the internet, and I was like, you know, it's it's all love, you know. Yeah, but probably I told someone, like, you know, boy, it that's something like them and trying to take my song, you know. So probably I tell someone that, you know, like in good faith, you know, like we talk in. Yeah. And they probably go and tell him that.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 17:46

You know, he knows that I feel that they stole my song. But the thing is, he should already know that because I message his producer and tell his producer that the song sounds alike. So it's not like news to his ears, like, I already believe that. So if I believe that and I tell your producer that I believe that your guy's song something similar to my song, which I recently dropped. You know, I recent listen, I went I went to so many different studios, like listening, monitoring, listening to the song to see if this song is gonna be a good one for you know my first song for 2026. And I was excited, you know. I was I was excited about the song and like to hear some somebody tell me, bro, you hear that song of Signal? I was like, what song? Because remember I said I never been back home. Yeah, so I wasn't in Carnival, so I don't know about no song that dropped during Carnival. So when I heard the song, I was like, oh shit, that do sound like my song. You know, I was like, I do it sounded like my song. So I was like, he looked like woke up. So I sent it to the I sent it to the producer, I sent it to somebody else that does work with two of us. He does like do like managing and getting bookings and stuff. So I sent it for him. He didn't say nothing, but I sure he told him, like, of course, Kallion feel your song song like his song, you know. Yeah, and then probably I tell somebody else, you know, it don't matter because I really do feel like this song song like my song. But I never went on the internet, you know. The internet, once you reach on the internet, oh god, yeah. You even know about it. Well, you would never know about it, you would never know, you would never ask me that question, yeah. And I was like, you know, it's all love, you know. You know, it's all love, you know. At the end of the day, it's business we're doing. So even if McDonald's don't like KFC, they're not really fighting, you understand?

SPEAKER_11 19:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:49

They're not really fighting, they're just doing their thing. So it's like I was online, you know, whatever. I say it's all love, you know.

SPEAKER_07 19:55

Yeah, and I guess you clearly, I mean, it's also a compliment to your music because they stole your music, so they thought it was good, you know.

SPEAKER_12 20:02

Well, let's not let's not throw his accusations out there that the music was stolen.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

Yeah, exactly. Let's not say that. Let's not say I don't believe they stole my song. I just use this inspiration. It's song similar, and it's like Rocky, Kallion, Kallion, drop that. Well, maybe we can drop that because you know that song don't have much singing, and their band is a band that have a lot of words in the song.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

My my vision for this song was to make the rhythm play, not much, not much singing. So when I did it, I was like, probably I give them the strength to do theirs too because they probably had it already. I know they had it already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably had it already, but I didn't strengthen. But I still feel like you know, it's very similar, you know. It's very similar. No, it is.

SPEAKER_12 20:51

I listened to both straight away. I was like, oh, I listened to both. I was like, damn, they definitely sound similar. And I swear like the titles of the songs were similar as well.

SPEAKER_05 21:01

Yeah, because one is shake it and one is clock it. But as you see, in my song, yeah, the first thing I say is clock it.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:09

Because I wasn't going to sing clock it all for the song. So I say clock it once, and then I say shake it.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:15

You understand? Because clock it, you know, girls say clock it and then they dance.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:20

But then they make their whole song clock it.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

You get what I say? And I did say clock it in myself. I mean, if I was them, I would hold the song back a little bit or something. You know, like honestly speaking, like, I wouldn't drop it so soon.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Like, you know, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_05 21:38

But it was two songs though. It was two songs. Because the video had two songs.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 21:44

From the post online, it was two songs. It was that song, and it was the next song, Frenny Me. And I have a song called Frenny Me. And he goes, Oh, you tell my Frenny Me. We used to fight don't enemies. And they're going like Frenny Me. I still felt away because there's a big band. I just come in no the little underdog. I thought they would play my song because normally their band they play people's songs. Like if your song hurt, they would just play like 10 seconds of it, you know, give you a big up. I thought I would get the big up. I didn't get the big up. I get this song something like mine. So you hit me.

SPEAKER_12 22:48

So that's more of a big up. You should you should be like honored by that. You know what I'm saying? Like a big band.

SPEAKER_05 22:56

I don't know, but I hit me.

SPEAKER_12 22:58

Listen, it should be flattered.

SPEAKER_05 23:08

What my album?

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Okay.

Why He Still Releases Albums

SPEAKER_07 23:13

Speaking of which, before we get into the music, I want to talk about albums. Because you've released at least two that I've seen. You probably released way more albums. But I don't see a lot of well, soak artist specifically, but artists release albums these days anymore. But you are really on yeah, like you're you're doing albums. So what's what's your you know decision behind doing albums?

SPEAKER_05 23:34

Well it's like it's like a book, right? So use the use of writer, use the artist, right? Whatever it is, spoken words, whatever, whatever it is. And you just keep putting out pages.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

But you never take it together and make a book. You know, like it's just you made a page down the street, you made another page, and then one day you say, Oh, those two pages is from the same book. Yeah. So no, I feel like if I put them together and one from the book goes viral, then you have different pages in the books you could look back to.

SPEAKER_07 24:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

Rather than a single.

SPEAKER_07 24:15

Yeah. But that's the thing, right? Because I feel like in in the Soka world, because of the and I know we don't like this, but because of the seasonal aspect of things, um, people are just looking for single pages. They don't look for books.

SPEAKER_05 24:27

No, yes. Everybody looking for the quick But me as a real music lover and I like a body of work. I actually brought I brought down the size because normally my albums have 19 songs.

unknown 24:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 24:42

Love it. You know, like you don't have to like my 19 songs, but I like them and I enjoy making them, and it's a lot of work to make 19 songs. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 24:52

I own engineer everything.

SPEAKER_12 24:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 24:55

I was gonna say that as well, because you you you don't just do you also create the beats of them as well to produce them?

SPEAKER_05 25:01

No, I I have someone coming up with the beats, right? But when once I hear the beat, once I hear the idea from the producer, then I take the beat, I I I I switch it up, I yeah, maybe change the elements, change the bass. So my songs have a certain song that most other songs don't have.

SPEAKER_07 25:21

Exactly. Love that. I've w I used to be dabbling into production as well, way back. And I could always make beats, that was no problem, but the whole mastering, mixing, I did not like that stuff. Yeah, that's long, innit? Yeah, I I respect that you can do that, and you need to have a good ear for that as well. No, definitely. Um but yeah, man, that's that's that's cool.

SPEAKER_05 25:44

Yeah, you need to focus on the side.

SPEAKER_07 25:45

Yep, hear all the layers, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_05 25:49

It's a lot of chucks, like one song is like a hundred and something chucks. You have to develop one to one song and then master it.

SPEAKER_07 25:57

Yeah, and I I could flip switches, but I wouldn't know what changes, you know. That's that's not my ear. So I respect it, I respect that. Yeah, man. Uh well, speaking of which, I do think it's time now for some music, uh Charles.

SPEAKER_12 26:10

I agree, I agree.

Song Pick Three Stand Up

SPEAKER_07 26:13

So we made a top three of Kellyan songs. Um we're gonna name them, starting with three, and then we're gonna ask you about how they were built, what uh feeling or idea behind them were, and so on. Charles, you wanna kick us off?

SPEAKER_11 26:29

I can. If that's what you want.

SPEAKER_12 26:35

That is it! I've got to try and sound a bit Dominican, you know what I mean? Anyway, enough about that. So, at number so these are the songs that we like, okay? It's not like the most popular ones, the most streamed or whatever, it's the ones that we're feeling the most. Yeah? Just putting that out there.

SPEAKER_06 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 26:56

So at number three, we have Stand Up featuring Constant Conscience and is it DR? Is that how it's pronounced?

SPEAKER_07 27:05

D R. DR. D R.

SPEAKER_12 27:07

D R, yeah, D R.

SPEAKER_07 27:09

And and before before you answer the question on how this came about, DR is someone you've made an album with as well, right? So he's been part of the Kelly and five for a time, I think. Well, he was his own stuff.

SPEAKER_05 27:20

He is his own stuff. Yeah. We came from the same place. So it was like, why don't we just collab and do a project together? I don't think anyone from where we're from did something like that. Oh, I think one other person did like in the same time we were doing it. But yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:40

So then how did that how that song came? Especially conscience is not somebody who just walks by, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 27:49

You know what I mean? Yo, honestly speaking. Boogie Ranks, big up Boogie Ranks.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

Hey yo, Boogie Ranks.

SPEAKER_05 27:58

Hey yo, Boogie, big up Boogie, because is Boogie? I mean, Boogie DM'd me on Instagram.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 28:06

He sent me like I responded. I didn't know who he was at the time, but I heard the name Boogie all the time. So I did not know who was Boogie. So I went to the normally when people message me, I always check my DMs.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 28:20

So I went to the page, I saw who it was and whatnot. And then he sent me a lot of bits. So it's like he saw I was interested in the beats, you know. And clearly he rate me, you know, for him to come to me and whatnot. So one day he said, bro, guess what? I get a song with we have a song with conscience. I was like, what? He was like, yeah, bro, I get conscience on a booyo. So he sent it to me. So when he sent it to me, when he sent it to me, at first, like how it started and how it how it was, it was like, it wasn't something like a booyo in my head. It was something like something trying to be a booyo.

SPEAKER_11 28:58

So I was like, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

I was like, give it to me, I'll fix it. So I I was like, you know what? Let's so I was trying to I was trying to booyze it because at the at the start I didn't get division. Sometimes, you know, you don't get the vision one time. So I sent it to DR and I tell him to listen to it. And he had it, but I was traveling at the time, you know. Then Boogie Rangs hit me back up and he was like, hey, what's the thing? So I tell him, you know, I still traveling and whatnot, because I never got to really listen to it on my speakers.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:31

So I say, you know what? I tell him, send me the stems and send me everything. Because I was like, in my head, bro, there's a conscience feature. I kinda turn that down.

SPEAKER_12 29:42

Of course not. No, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_05 29:44

I kinda turn that down. So he send me everything, I send it for my boy. Then it slipped my mind a little bit. I was in my living room sitting, and then me and Dara was on the call, and he tell me, bro, I do I do my voice, you know, on this song. I was like, what song? He said, this song with conscience. I say, oh boy, he's right, right, right, right. I run in the studio. I run in the studio. I say, no, I don't want to hear your voice. Let me record mine first. And he was still on the call. And I go, I record mine. Bop, I record mine. Finish. And we are listening, I listening. Quick, quick, quick. I checking. You know what, bro? I feel we need to take out part of the chorus, change it, and restructure it. And we did it. And when conscience heard it, he was like, Wow, that is a different song. Because he that was that wasn't the song he did.

SPEAKER_12 30:35

Of course, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 30:37

When he did he was like, damn, but whatever, he believed he trusts the process, and at the end of it, he was like, Yeah, it's sounding good. Boogie Rang said sounding good. I feel it was sounding good. I spent an entire week on that thing. Nice. And then we asked about the video and he was done to do the video. I was like, Man, that is it. I never messaged conscience. I never, I mean, if I did message conscience, he would never see my message.

SPEAKER_12 31:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know it's M1.

SPEAKER_05 31:14

Yeah, and when I met him, I gave him his flowers. You know, I was telling him, bro, when I was in high school, I grew up listening to your your stuff and stuff. I mean, when I look at the guy, the guy looks like me and him the same age. I was like, man, that's you don't age, bro. Yeah, it's true, actually. It's facts.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

He doesn't. Yeah. I think it's something about artists. Like artists, I don't know. I don't know if it's the way we think, but it keeps us young. Once you're into in entertainment, it's like you stay young. That's why I think music is the key to life.

SPEAKER_12 31:47

That is it.

SPEAKER_05 31:49

Because the music, the vibration of music, it keeps your cells happy. And you know, once your cells are happy, they will keep your skin tight. But if you just decide doesn't listen to music, you I don't listen to that one day music because I do like him. Me, I don't have to like you. Even if I don't like you, I will still listen to your song if I like it. If your song makes myself happy in my body, I'm going to listen to it because every every season I have a song. It doesn't have like 30 hot songs, you know. It have a few hot songs at a time. And if you don't listen to none of the hot songs because you don't like the person, then you're bad. You know, your body going to start pulling a bath. No, I hear it.

SPEAKER_12 32:32

I hear it. I hear it. Boy.

SPEAKER_07 32:34

Well, I think we should listen to uh you're you're I was literally about to say it. I'm beat you to it. Uh I think we should have a little to uh stand up featuring conscience and the R.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

I think we should too. Let's go! Yo do jump boogey runs.

SPEAKER_08 32:51

Well uh bring them out.

SPEAKER_07 34:14

That was stand up. Right, um, it is time to move to our number two shines. Because I'm actually quite itchy to get to our number one, because it's uh big tune.

SPEAKER_12 34:23

Ah, late.

SPEAKER_07 34:25

Well, so is number two. So let's start with number two.

Song Pick Two Shake It Remix

SPEAKER_12 34:28

Literally, literally. So at number two. Don't worry, it's coming, but we gotta keep the suspense, yo. We gotta keep the suspense because you decided you wanted to get TikTok involved, so now you've got to keep them in suspense, yo. Keep them watching, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 34:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 34:48

Why do I chat so much rubbish? Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_07 34:50

They're commenting right now saying, come on, Sharon, hurry up.

SPEAKER_12 34:53

Literally, like, get to it, girl. Alright. At number two, we have Shake It Remix with problem is a problem.

SPEAKER_07 35:08

Now we we have seen Problem and Child, like, we've talked to some artists already in our time doing this podcast. Um more than a few had a uh collab with uh problem and child and we've heard about his process. Um he is he as perfectionist as we hear that he is? How how did his collab uh with you come around?

SPEAKER_05 35:34

Well honestly, don't take that for nothing. He didn't have much problem, like even though his name is problem, he didn't have he didn't have any problem really. Okay So it's like I send him his semi-vocals, I mix it, I send it back to him, and he was like, Okay, okay, okay, that is his harmonies, he wants his harmonies a little louder, he wants this and this and this.

SPEAKER_11 35:59

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:00

I did that, he was like, Boom, that is it, he likes it.

SPEAKER_11 36:05

Okay, nice.

SPEAKER_05 36:07

I edit the video as well. I I edit the video too. That's crazy, nice. You you do everything literally by you and I sent him the video. The first time I sent him the video, he was like, boom. I think he said something like you know, like he doesn't get like stuff where he like approved like so quick to me.

SPEAKER_12 36:30

100%. That's what we were trying to say to you. Like when other artists have worked with him, he's just like, nah, do it again, do it again, do it again. Or like he's he's a real perfect perfectionist, but the fact that he didn't do much of that with you, that speaks volumes about you. Like you were just on point from the jump. So big up yourself.

SPEAKER_05 36:48

Me is like I come in from a from a from a long time, you know. Yeah, 2008, 2009. We didn't have no AI, we didn't have no fast computer, and we have to make it work. So now when I have a computer that moving faster than light, I mean, come on. I going to do it perfect, I'm going to do it like very precise.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

And yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:14

I don't leave no room for him to say well. Yeah, yeah. I tried to make sure it's good after shot. Of course. Yeah, that was for sure. I did shows on the song as well. It's it's an epic song as well. The music video too. I went to New York, he was cool. I had to fly two videographers to New York, everything we meet up. We shoot the video, he was done to earth. Like every artist I work with, conscience, problem child, Nyla Blackman. Yeah, I've seen it. People on the internet be talking, they just don't they don't know what they're talking about. But it's all love. No, 100%.

SPEAKER_12 37:55

Yeah, no, I can tell you for a fact, I know Problem Child, like Problem Child knows me. He is so humble, I love that guy to bits. Yeah, so I understand. You say he's humble, definitely.

SPEAKER_05 38:06

The the artists them home, all the artists are humble.

SPEAKER_11 38:09

Some artists, you know, they get in the head, of course, and they're not even as big, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:14

You know, they're not as big, but they feel like they bigger than themselves, they're bigger than the program. Yeah, I just shake my head. That's why you see I don't have much songs with with speakers, yeah. I guess they feel like they're bigger than the program.

SPEAKER_12 38:29

So no, we're we're gonna we're gonna talk about that as well after. But yeah, we're gonna talk about that.

SPEAKER_07 38:35

You will, we will then first let's listen to Shake It with Problem Chelsea.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Shake it.

SPEAKER_12 40:09

That was Shake It. Remix feature problem child. Big tune, big tune, boom, boom, big tune.

SPEAKER_07 40:15

100%, 100%.

SPEAKER_12 40:16

Done. Right. I think we should just get to the number one. Can we get to the number one? Real quick.

SPEAKER_07 40:20

Yeah, let's

Song Pick One Put That On That

SPEAKER_07 40:21

do it. Because that's a big tune.

SPEAKER_12 40:22

Listen, this number one. Ay, don't get me started. Anyway, at number one. I'd probably say that this is probably your biggest song. Maybe. I don't know, I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_07 40:36

But millions of views on YouTube.

SPEAKER_12 40:38

Listen, I hear this song so often. The different countries I go to, the DJs are spinning it. It's probably the song I hear the most that DJs are playing all around the world. So to put everybody out of the suspense, at number one, we have put that on that. Whoa!

SPEAKER_06 41:03

Whoa!

SPEAKER_12 41:06

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

SPEAKER_07 41:09

Why are you surprised, Jorence?

SPEAKER_12 41:11

We on hot okay.

SPEAKER_07 41:19

Tell us uh what inspired you to do that song. Or maybe I already know.

SPEAKER_05 41:24

Just that that song there. Okay, so that song there. I was making this song The Woman in My Life. That I was that what I was making. But actually, let me back check.

unknown 41:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 41:42

So when I dropped, Never Wanna Let You Go. That was the first boy I dropped in 2024 on my birthday, July 7th. Oh, yeah. Always on July 7th. So my my producer now, he heard that I made a booyo, so he was like, what? Kali on make a booyo. I gonna make bits. So he bought a laptop and he made a bit. But he he may put that on that, but he didn't send it to me. He sent it to the next friend of ours to listen. So then the friend messaged me and he said, Me, boy, Shako make you read him there, boy. That that is for you, boy. That's something like you. So I was like, I was like, uh when I hear that, I say, what? But I was heading to Miami to get my daughter for summer, it was summer. So when I heard it, so my wife was like, uh uh, I can't listen, I cannot listen. It's off key, it's off key. Because something in the room was off key. So my wife was like, no, no, no, I cannot, I cannot. So I I couldn't play. So the whole summer went by. I did nothing with the song because my daughter was with me.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 42:51

And then summer was done. So now I'm back in the studio. I tell my mother, okay, mommy, I can record that song, and that song they're gonna be gonna be a big song. So she went back home. I record the song. It did not help put that on. It had the human in my life. So I sent it for my friend, so he was like, boy, you know what? When I get the beat, you know, I'll write something for you, you know. For the chorus. But what you sing in there, I like it too. So I know I'm gonna tell you, take it out. But let's add what I write for you with what you have.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:32

And I was like, what you what is it? So you say it for me? So I was like, okay. I put it, I see. I say, okay, that can work. So I put it so I was like, okay, guess what? You saying it, so let's just leave you saying it.

SPEAKER_03 43:51

Right?

SPEAKER_05 43:52

So but some of the the the the the the the notes wasn't hitting right in the gonna put that on that. And put your on pussy on that. So I was like, you know what? I I said it and I chop it. So in the song, I saying girl put that on that. And he saying, Girl put your pussy on that. And people will never even recognize that. If you listen to it, you hear it have a different voice. But because he said it as a reference for me to say it, he was already songing like me.

SPEAKER_11 44:25

Okay. You understand?

SPEAKER_05 44:27

So I just heard him saying it so he could be, so he could be on the song. So if he choose to be an artist, which he did, he can say, you know, iron, put that on that. I say put that, that put your pussy on that. Just that little piece, it don't matter. But he on it, you understand? But he didn't have the name yet, and nothing like that yet when I put out this song. But big up is big up there. You don't know the Kiyomi music. But yeah, that's how we come up with that song. Early and truly. That's how we come up with it. We put nice my my chorus and his together. And that was that was ugly.

SPEAKER_12 45:05

Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_07 45:06

Big tune.

SPEAKER_12 45:07

Very big tune. Very uh vulgar.

SPEAKER_07 45:11

Well, I want to follow up on that. But let's listen to the song first.

SPEAKER_12 45:16

Let's go.

SPEAKER_07 45:16

Okay, let's let's have a listen to put that on that. Our number one. That was our number one. Put that on that. Now, songs like this is the reason why I have to go when I upload this video on YouTube. I have to click. No, this is not for kids. Because there's some, you know, words in there that I cannot have kids listen to.

Vulgarity Debate And Genre Labels

SPEAKER_07 47:22

There's some um. There's different ways, different types of soca out there, you know? Boujon is one of the types of so that's out there. Some people that are really into soca say that Boujon is too vulgar or too dirty. Um, that's an opinion that you can have. Um, what's your view on that? How do you how do you see the difference between let's say the 3D Ahsoka versus the Bouillon Soka? If you want to call it that, Asian.

SPEAKER_05 47:49

Well, to me, the 3D it has different types of people. It has some guys in school, they'll buy a rose, and they would bring a big bouquet for a girl, and then she'll still go with me. So so so let's just let's just say these two people is artists. The one that brings the rose, he's singing about I'm gonna destroy my rose for you, my baby. And then me now, that went down with her. I say, I go in and fuck your woman. You understand? So you see, so one is a nice guy, he writes a story about his nice story about getting the rose, but he never get nothing. So you don't have this story, don't get explicit. But me, he just got neuros. I do my neuros, and I take the girl home. So I do the no work, and so I just make the song about that.

SPEAKER_12 48:42

No, I hear it. I hear it. But I just wanna have a little disclaimer, yeah? Because Buyon is not so, so let's not call it soyo is not Booya is not soccer, but when I upload my song on Audio Mac, yeah, Booyah.

SPEAKER_05 48:56

You label it. Booyo, Booyah on the Soka on Audio Mac. Because you got no choice. Booyo is a soccer. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_11 49:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:05

And honestly, yes, Buyo is not so, but let's just say so is a big umbrella, right? And it have like smaller music coming out. That's what I see as well, right?

SPEAKER_07 49:21

You have deniary, you have all this, you have job, the score like under soccer.

SPEAKER_05 49:24

Not so, but I don't see the fight. That's the problem with black people.

SPEAKER_11 49:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:29

We cannot just say, okay, yes, yes, all of us under that.

SPEAKER_03 49:34

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_05 49:35

No, yeah, that one there, that country wants to have his own thing, that country have his own thing, and that country has its own thing. Each country has like 30,000 people. Where the hell are we going?

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You understand?

SPEAKER_05 49:46

We're not going nowhere. But if we try to push, push like an agenda, like the Caribbean, one Caribbean, and in the Caribbean it has Booyo, it has soccer, it have generary segment, it has you know, but then it don't just have soccer because it has groovy, it has power, it has um it has zest, it have steam. You know, it has all the things. So I never see the fight. I never people was bad at me. They was like, oh, you wasn't a defending booyo. What the hell are you defending booyo? I make him booyo. Yeah, what you doing for booyo? What's doing for booyo, bro? How many how many views do you give in a day to Booyo artists? Yeah, the artist that do have no problem, you know. The artists, we do have no problem. I love I love Booyo, I love so, I love Denry, I love Jab Jab, I love I love all of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only problem I see is we fighting ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

Yeah, no, I hear that.

SPEAKER_05 50:46

And and it's actually impacting us because that whole story about Booyo and Sokka. So, right now, some DJs not playing Booyo. Oh, really? Why not? Yeah, so who don't want to have a good time? Well, they don't want to have a good time, but it's affecting the artists.

SPEAKER_07 51:04

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 51:05

But that's Booyah been Booyo been held back for years. Yeah, this is true though, yeah. The DJs knew about Booyah. They knew about Booyah, but they wasn't pushing it.

SPEAKER_02 51:19

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:20

I don't want to say they wasn't pushing it because they feel like no, we want it to be Trinidad all the time. Or they felt like uh people might not like that. You know, but then when you reach to a point where everybody loves it. Yeah. We cannot hold it back no more. Exactly. Exactly. If you're not playing Boyo, you're not getting no shows. And any any party I go to and I I do a boy, I'm gonna take a picture of the DJ and I can put him online. And I don't care. Listen to me, I don't care. I don't, I don't care. I don't care. Like I you hear what I tell you, I was popular in 2011, so I don't care.

SPEAKER_12 52:03

Yeah, no, I hear it.

SPEAKER_05 52:04

They cannot they do I don't and I don't frighten, I don't start struck, I don't frighten, I don't know. I just believe in.

SPEAKER_12 52:12

Yeah, no, I hear it.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

Fair, fair, fair, fair. So I can see what I have to say.

SPEAKER_12 52:17

No, I hear it, and that's fair enough. Yeah, yeah, definitely, but yeah, I mean, it took for Bouillon to just catapult, and now it's like it's cool to play the Bouillon now.

SPEAKER_05 52:30

Exactly.

SPEAKER_12 52:31

I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_05 52:33

Yeah, because you know, for so long they keep holding back, you know with catapult, you have to pull it back, yeah. They keep holding it back for years and but it there keeps holding till they can hold it back, and when it let go, right now it's just coming like a canon, literally. Nothing kind of nothing at all.

SPEAKER_12 52:52

That is it, nothing, and it just coming, and you can see people on the internet crying.

SPEAKER_05 52:59

Where the booyo? Where the rhythm? We don't hear no rhythm, we don't hear no booyo. We don't hear we want to hear booyo, we want to hear booyo, exactly. I want to hear that, yeah. I want to hear that, you want the definitely the revelers, we not in a church and the people outside drinking their own, they just want to hear some hard rhythm, exactly, and the artists speaking facts, they push you on in your I was gonna I literally was gonna say I was literally gonna come back because Booyah music, Booyo music, Booyah music was not like that, and it was not supported when Chibu K and CK and them Signal band them singing Booya all the time, yep, yep, yep, excess groove, and they were singing good songs, yeah, and it still never gets the platform is when the guy come and say it gripping, gripping, gripping, pulling, pulling, pulling. That is when it shocked them. That was it. Yeah, that was it. And that is what that is what that is what we did and put that on that. My friend was telling me, bro, the the song had no cussing, you know. My friend was like, bro, you know, you have to just shock them. Let's just shock them.

SPEAKER_12 54:21

Just yeah, it works.

SPEAKER_05 54:23

I like it when you, you know, and we just do that. Yep, it worked, and it did work, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_11 54:29

That is it.

SPEAKER_05 54:32

It did work, so it's like damn.

SPEAKER_12 54:36

Nah, I hear it, I hear it. I just have one last thing. Well, not one last thing, but one penultimate thing.

Why Artists Don’t Support Each Other

SPEAKER_12 54:44

So, as an artist, so as an artist doing Bruyon, I don't know. Do you feel like the other artists are supportive of you? Obviously, this ties in with that whole let's call it the back and all that you had. Do you feel like the artists stick together, or do you feel like there's like a fight down?

SPEAKER_05 55:03

No. Okay, talk to me a little bit about that artist not together, okay. Because they're small-minded and they still have a Dominican mindset. Okay. Before I left Dominica, I never had a Dominica mindset because I used to travel to America all the time. And some people might look at it like, oh, because you go to America, you think you're better than people. No, I see a faster life, I see business. I I'm a business person. I did a function school. I had five businesses. I know what business is. Yes, yep, yeah. You understand? And they're not looking at it from a business perspective, they're looking at it from a popular perspective, and who can get girls?

SPEAKER_10 55:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 55:43

That's how they're looking at it. Who can get girls and who oh well I do like oh, some of them is like, well, I do like Mr. Because if I make a song with Mr. Well, this my dumb, this this my Dominica fans will stop listening to my music. Okay. How big do Dominica fans make you?

SPEAKER_11 55:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 56:00

You understand? So it's like I I I honestly like I would drop a song, and like none of them artists wouldn't share my song. Like and and right now, I wouldn't share this either because I was showing love at first and I don't know love. So what I've been uh fool then. I not go with a fool.

SPEAKER_11 56:21

Yeah, no, no, no, I hear it.

SPEAKER_05 56:25

It's like I begging friend then. I'm not begging friends. You're not supporting me, I'm not supporting you. But no unity, no unity is no unity, I can tell you. That is the business. I build my own, I building my own empire. We don't have no gate. No gate. You see how you could walk to Bob Mali, go to Bob Mali? People was welcome. Well, Michael Jackson, people was welcome too.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:52

Well, me, people welcome.

SPEAKER_12 56:56

Yeah, people welcome the eyes first.

SPEAKER_05 56:58

Yeah, and some people think that some people think that I I cocky, I stuck up. I I really not, but that's not for me to say.

SPEAKER_10 57:07

Of course.

SPEAKER_05 57:08

So, unless somebody go forward and speak the truth about me, people will just look at me like you know, oh, Mr. Worse guy, but that is their business. Because God's not to judge people, so that is their scenes they carry in. That's not my business, you know what I'm saying? Exactly.

SPEAKER_12 57:23

No, you do you, that's it. You focus on yourself, you build your own thing, boom, forget them. They're not paying your successfully as well. Yeah, they're not putting a roof over your head, nothing like that. So it's just like don't take people on and they're nonsense. Forget that.

SPEAKER_05 57:37

That is how I move in.

SPEAKER_12 57:38

Yeah, now I hear it. And I I raise it.

SPEAKER_05 57:40

I really wish that. I really wish that, you know, like more, more, more of my cool ups could come from Dominican artists too.

SPEAKER_11 57:49

Yeah, no, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 57:51

I link up, I link a couple artists already, and it's like nothing never happened. Like, how you telling me? How are you telling me? Problem child, now black man, conscience them doing the burst in like no time, and you, yeah, a whole year now, you cannot send me back to you. You cannot come back and tell me, bro, I didn't I couldn't you know nothing. It's like just disrespect them. So I just leave them alone. You check it out. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_12 58:16

That's it. Forget all of that. Now I hear it. That's fair enough, man. But one more thing as well.

New Album Tease And Genre Blend

SPEAKER_12 58:22

I know you're dropping an album on the 7th of July, aka 7th of July. That's that's I'm calling that King's Day. Because you're the king and it's your birthday, it's your day.

SPEAKER_05 58:34

I'm a king.

SPEAKER_12 58:35

You are a king, yeah? That's it, it's your day.

SPEAKER_05 58:39

So obviously, we're not gonna she call me a king.

SPEAKER_12 58:42

Yeah, come on. I told you. I'm gonna big you up. This is I'm the calling of gas.

SPEAKER_05 58:48

Carl Lyon. Oh, it's Carl Lyon, Lion King.

SPEAKER_12 58:53

Okay, okay, yes, exactly. There it is. So, we're not gonna reveal any of the songs that's on the album because you want people to wait. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 59:03

Oh, yeah, you I sent you some songs.

SPEAKER_12 59:05

You did send me some, and there's one of the songs that I heard on there. It's like a a kind of mix between like Compa and Bouillon.

SPEAKER_05 59:12

Yes, I was like, dad. I don't know what I was gonna get you. That is my next one. What you feeling?

SPEAKER_12 59:18

Yeah, I was feeling it because I love I love Compa and I love Brion, and I've not really heard it mixed before, so I was like, yeah, this is different. I like it.

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Yeah, what you predicting with that song?

SPEAKER_12 59:35

But but do you know what? I'm not good at predictions, but I don't know, man. I feel I don't know. Just know that I'ma be it can go both ways, right?

SPEAKER_07 59:42

Literally, because it's new, it's fresh. I yeah, it's it can either like hit somebody and like, oh, that's nice, or it can be like, oh, this is different. I don't like different things.

SPEAKER_12 59:50

That's what I'm saying, whatever people think, yeah. Just know I'ma be playing it. Just know that.

SPEAKER_05 59:56

Yeah, exactly. Because there's loads of songs. Everybody who heard it, yeah, like you see. I never told you about that song.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

Everybody who heard it have that same reaction.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:05

Like, I'll be playing the songs, like you know, for like close friends, and we we we're going through these songs, they're like, Yeah, that is a thing, yeah. That one they're bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Oh, I like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:17

When we get to that song, yeah, like yo. Let me get it lighter. Fire, fire, fire, fire.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:29

Like, no, definitely, yeah, no, I was definitely feeling that one for sure. So I'm hoping that that one will take off, but there's been enough songs that I've heard that I'm like, this is a big song, and it doesn't go anywhere. And I'm like, ah, you DJs, you lot are sleeping on this song, man. But that song, yeah. So I'm looking forward to the whole album coming out. So, people, if you're listening, yo, just keep your ears and your eyes peeled.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:00

Well, what you think about? What you think about? What you think about? I send you like five songs. What you think about what you because it's five. Let me say something first. So it's is it seven songs you didn't you did not hear one and you know shake it, shake it on the album.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:12

But it's seven different demographic I targeting.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:19

You understand? Yeah, so it have people that would like throttle. Yeah, you know, it have people that would like not giving up.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:30

Like that song they're like. Tell me what you think about the the project on a whole, like, from listening.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:37

Yeah, so I was feeling it, but obviously all the other tracks have that that what do I call it? Just you know, the usual bouillon rhythm. You see what I'm saying? So I think that's also why the compar one stood out to me the most because it was just different. But yeah, the other ones I was feeling them, like there's the the wet fed one. Um, yeah, I was feeling them.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:00

The wet fed rhythm, you see. Ah so on this one there, on this one there, on this one there, I did a little shady stuff. Oh I did it, but let's wet for the job. Yeah, yeah. Because I did a little shady stuff with with with something in that song. I did it, it was intentional.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:23

Okay, okay. Who else? The person will hear it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:31

The artist will hear it. It's not this. I just showing, we spoke about it earlier. I just showing how even if you don't use words, cadence is cadence, and yeah, exactly. Melody is melody.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:46

No, I hear it, I hear it. I hear it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

Please please again.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:50

Yeah, no, no, no, I will, I will, I will. I will, I will, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:53

And I did novels, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:56

Mads. Alright, cool. Well, uh, we've definitely had a long chat. Definitely had a long chat. Yeah, I've I've been very much entertained, yeah, very much so. And I'm I'm like, I don't even want to stop the chat, but I know we we have to stop.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:16

At some point, yes.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:18

This is all gonna be like two hours or something. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:23

So what I'm gonna do is we're on there for oh wait, when we started, no, it was two o'clock, we on there for like an hour and hour. Well, it's been over an hour, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:29

But the way I want to chat, it's gonna be two, three hours. So I'ma I'ma just cut that off here and I'm gonna ask my final question that I ask to every single person who comes on the podcast. So

Who He’d Be Stuck In Studio

SPEAKER_12 1:03:43

Sean's favorite question. If you could be stuck in an elevator, I'm gonna change this one up a bit. If you could be stuck in an elevator with any artist, so it could be Soga, it could be Bouillon. Any artist dead or alive, who would it be and why?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:05

I'd have to go with Lil Wayne.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:07

Lil Wayne, oh okay, yeah, little yeah, we're gonna we're just gonna change it up because obviously Bouillon is not Soka. I'm just gonna say it that because I don't want no one to come fight me black. Ah Bouillon's not so I don't I don't want to fight that one.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:17

It needs to be a bouilla or so because I said a hip of artists.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:21

I know you said Lil Wayne, so I'ma take the I'ma take the Lil Wayne for now, but pick a Soka or Bouillon artist, dead or alive, any of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:35

A Booyo Osaka artist in the elevator.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:38

Yeah, no, well, let's say in a studio because people seem to have an issue with being in the elevator. So let's call it a studio. There's a hurricane outside. If you go outside, you're gonna die. You're just stuck in this studio, it could be a snowstorm, a blizzard, something like that. You can't leave the studio for a period of time until it's safe. Who would you be stuck in that studio with and why?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:02

Alright, no. I make some make some crazy song.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:09

It's a tough one.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:10

I have to think we're on that one there.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:12

It's a tough one. Alright, so we're just gonna take Lil Wayne. Let's pretend stick in the elevator elevator studio, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:21

Well, you know, based it have to be someone I met before.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:26

No, so they could be dead or alive, it could be any any soaker or brion artist. You could never have met them.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:32

I can I can I can stick in a studio with Trinidad Killer, you know.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:35

Okay, Trinidad Killer. Why try to he's another one that lover back and now maybe that's why you're gonna be stuck with him. Anyway, talk to me. Why why did you choose Trinidad Killer?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:45

Because I feel like me and him fighting the same battle and we understand one another, and we can really and he phone. I I I I chill around him already. He phone, yeah, yeah, yeah. He you know, and he's still musically inclined so. Why not?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

Yeah, no, I hear him.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:02

They're making songs all day and talking fuck. And yeah, fair. He would be talking making noise about you know the Marshall Montano and Soka Mapian. I like Jinad Killer, man. You know, good guy, man. Good guy, good guy. Fair enough. He mean good, but he experienced a lot of bad. No, I know, I know. Yeah, but the best definitely go for the hardest time.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:26

Of course. That is it.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:27

Facts.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:28

Fair enough. That's the first time somebody said Trinidad Killer. We normally get like the obvious ones like Mashell or who else have we had? Bungie. You know what I'm saying? So it's nice when we hear something different. I mean, the last episode somebody said, was it Kerwin?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:44

We got Kerwind doer? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:47

I think that was um Ly Ly Lyra was her name? Liza Lazara. Aruba.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:52

Oh, Liza. Liza, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:54

I think she said Kerwin. But yeah, so it's always nice when we hear an artist we've not heard before because it's like, oh damn, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:01

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:02

Cool.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:03

Alright, lovely.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:05

Yeah, big up Cheddar Killer, all the time. But yeah, so I think that's all we have time for. Oh, we have time.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:12

One more important point.

Where To Find Kalion Online

SPEAKER_12 1:07:14

Oh, yeah, can't forget this.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:15

100%. So before we close out, we need to know how to find you on TikTok. Also on all the other social media.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:24

So, how do people find you listening? They want to know more about you. Where do they go to?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:28

So, you want to know more about me on Instagram, Kalion, K-H-A L L I O N. Official. And that's on Instagram, TikTok. And on Facebook, it's just Kalion, YouTube, Kalyon. You know, once you type K-H E L L I O N, you will find me. I not have to find you. No official. Kallion. Once you put Kalyon, you will see me.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:56

Yeah, we'll make sure we'll link it in the episode description as well. At least to your Instagram. So uh people be sure to check it out. Okay. Then indeed I think we have taken.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:07

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:08

Sorry? The album is going to be crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:11

No, we're going to be able to do it. Yeah, can't wait. Can't wait. 777, right? 777. I hope my dog makes it to listen.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:18

We we're looking forward to it, honestly. Can't wait. Vibes.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:22

100%. Alright, but we've taken enough of your time, man. Literally. Thank you so much for joining us today.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:29

So grateful. So grateful.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:31

We'll be keeping an eye on you because there's great, great things uh ahead of us.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:35

100%. And listen, I'ma be in Miami for carnival. Link up.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:42

Okay, so we can do it in person talk then.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:45

There we go. Link up. Link up. Link up.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:48

How the album? How the album? How the album then, you know?

SPEAKER_12 1:08:50

Yeah, yeah. We'll have a proper catch-up, man. So make sure. Don't don't like start ignoring my messages and be like, oh, this this dumb.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:59

I actually have to save it. Send it, send him, send a message.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:02

Oh, you didn't even save my number. That's crazy. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't save yours either. So what? Here we are. I'm a bad guy.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:10

And with that, guys, I think we should get back to the digital studio showers.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:15

Alright, cool. Don't worry. I will save everything. I'm gonna message you. We're gonna link in October for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:22

Yeah? Yes. But thank you so much again. It's been a pleasure. We're gonna love you and leave you. Enjoy the rest of your day of your day.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:31

You too.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:32

Lovely.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:32

Thank you very much. Alright, I appreciate the interview and everything.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:36

Yeah, no worries, man. It's been a pleasure. I've had a lot of fun. Honestly.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:39

Yes, me too.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:41

Alright, we could. Alright, see you later.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:43

Bye-bye.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:44

Alright, bye.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:49

We

Hosts Wrap And Brawlin Reminder

SPEAKER_07 1:09:50

are back in the digital studio, and I do have to say, Sharon's, I really, really enjoyed the conversation. Same. Uh yeah, it went on a bit longer than I expected. Normally we have an interview about a half an hour. But yeah, it was so interesting. I don't I didn't even know the time has flown so fast.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:04

Literally, uh loved it. Honestly, and I just love that he's just so bold and he will say whatever he wants, and he just does not care. I love that.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:15

I I love this comparison to training that music. It's it's so fucking funny. But yeah, here we are. Literally.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:21

So yeah, that's it. That's it, man. But just quickly, just a reminder, ruling July the 11th. Make sure you grab your tickets, people. If you're gonna be in London or if you want to be in London for it, www.tridonldn.com. Grab your tickets. This one is going to sell out.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:40

Be there or be not a rectangular.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:42

Exactly.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:44

I think we should call it there, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:46

I think so.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:47

Everybody have a great remainder of June. We're gonna talk to you again in July. Yeah, man. It's almost time for the peak of carnival season.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:56

Mm-hmm. So, guys, look after yourselves, look after each other, be safe, and we will be back next month.

unknown 1:11:07

Bye!

SPEAKER_07 1:11:08

Bye bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:10

You've been listening to this Oka Chronicles Chronicles.