Soca Chronicles
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Soca Chronicles
Interview with Supa Nytro
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In this 22nd episode of Soca Chronicles, join us as we dive into the vibrant Soca scene with none other than the dynamic Supa Nytro! Hailing from the bustling city of London, Supa Nytro is not your ordinary DJ. With a multitude of titles under his belt, including producer, artist, event organizer, and host, he is a true force to be reckoned with in the music scene. This interview promises a blend of laughter, insights, and, of course, plenty of banter.
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Welcome to the Soka Chronicles. Soca Chronicles with Sharns and Arkeo.
SPEAKER_03Welcome to the 22nd episode of Soka Chronicles, the podcast that brings you everything Soka. I'm ArcoYo, and I'm once again physically sitting next to the one and only Sharns.
SPEAKER_06Yo Yeah.
SPEAKER_03In this episode, we are chatting with a big, big, big, big London DJ, host, producer, artist, and event organizer.
SPEAKER_06Jeez Louise. How many bloody titles?
SPEAKER_03Honestly, I think on his LinkedIn it doesn't fit, so he might need to make like acronyms or something. But yeah, there's plenty to discuss. But let's start small, shall we?
SPEAKER_06Let's small up the thing.
SPEAKER_03So most importantly is something, well, I mean most important to us, I guess, is that we are looking forward to what we will be doing in a month from now.
SPEAKER_06A Barbados!
SPEAKER_03Barbados, you can already hear it in the A. You can hear the excitement. I love it. We will be in Barbados by the time our next episode drops. Yeah, looking forward to that. If anybody is in Barbados around that time, look out for Social Chronicle t-shirts and caps. Hit us up if you want to have a lime, if you want to have some information on fats that we would recommend. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Please and thanks.
SPEAKER_03Connect, connect, connect. Please and thanks. You're always so polite, Jordan. Then I want to talk music.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03Can we do Song of the Month?
SPEAKER_06We can do Song of the Month.
SPEAKER_05This is the Song of the Month.
SPEAKER_06This month's Song of the Month is a big tune. Make a big tune. So we have chosen the new song by Skinny Fabulous, Mr. Killer, and Asa Banton. Do what you want. Absolutely banger. I cannot wait to hear this effect or hear it on the road.
SPEAKER_03A hundred percent. Yeah. That is gonna heat up the summer, you know? It's already hot. But it's gonna get hotter.
SPEAKER_06There we go. Burning flames.
SPEAKER_03And that lineup? Yeah, exactly. Flames. And that lineup is already sick. Exactly. Because it's all high, high energy people. Exactly. And the song is high energy. So give it a listen. Well, we'll listen to it right now for a bit, but make sure you listen to the full version as well because it is fire. Let's have a listen.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03So that was Kitty Fabulous, Mr. Killer, and Asa Benton. Do what you want, eh? I'm already I'm already sweating already. I'm sitting in my chair, but I'm sweating already. That song is too much. Fire. It's gonna be a vibe on the road, 100%.
SPEAKER_06Of course. Come on.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think, listen, we have not had a very long introduction, but this multi-titled artist performer person is waiting for us. Do you even know what to call him? You know what I mean? Like, I I really will check his LinkedIn page for if he has one because I need to know what he calls himself. Um, there's a lot to discuss. So I just want to dive right into it.
SPEAKER_06Let's do it.
SPEAKER_03Should we enlighten who it is first?
SPEAKER_06Just get into it.
SPEAKER_03Alright. Alright, let's get into it then.
SPEAKER_06Let's go.
SPEAKER_03Soca Chronicles. This month we have an amazing interview with a London DJ, host, producer, artist, and event organizer.
SPEAKER_06With the name of Super Nitro!
SPEAKER_03What's that accent?
SPEAKER_06I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Why of all is that a London accent? Because that's definitely not a London accent.
SPEAKER_06Super Nitro. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Anyway. Welcome. Welcome. Greetings, greetings. So you have a packed title, right? You have artists, DJ, producer. You're organizing events. There's many things you do in the in the scene. Where did you start?
SPEAKER_08I started steel bands. Really? Yeah. I started playing steel bands when I was about four or five five, I think. Yeah, that's when I started.
SPEAKER_03And then what was the next step after that? Because you can't just go from steel bands into all the things I just mentioned.
SPEAKER_08Still bands to being a nuisance in class, knocking on tables, making beats to drumming. I was a drummer for the same still band in a different one. And then I fell into like UK rap in about year 10, year 11. And I was almost signed, and my dad was like, nah, you're not doing no five-year contract, you so damn. That was a myth. Oh damn. I kept writing for a while. I kept getting studio for a while. Didn't really know what I was doing though. And then uh DJing was the next step in the musical evolution. And I started DJing and I was 16? 17? Around that time. Okay. Around that time.
SPEAKER_03But I wasn't so gonna do that.
SPEAKER_08Umsoka was played, yeah, but I wasn't Ahsoka DJ, no. Well, I don't really think I'm a a specific type of DJ, but yeah, that's not why I started with. I started with dancehall, hip hop, RB, funky house, garage, um, new jack swing, club classics.
SPEAKER_03So you can do everything. You're versatile.
SPEAKER_08To a degree. To a degree. To a degree.
SPEAKER_03Oh, if I listen to all the the titles you have, like I said, DJ, host, producer, you know, you're you're organizing events.
SPEAKER_08You know, Jack of all trades.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But is it not is it's not difficult to uh excel in all those things, if you know what I mean? So you you are DJ, you're a good DJ.
SPEAKER_06Um hello, not good. Great DJ. International DJ, I might ask. There we go. Never in the country.
SPEAKER_03Well, but so for example, you produce as well.
SPEAKER_08I do, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Is your producing standing in the way of your DJ or your DJing standing in the way of the producing? Like, is there enough time in the day to do all those things?
SPEAKER_08God damn it, nothing stands in the way of nothing.
SPEAKER_03I like it.
SPEAKER_08God damn it. I get what I need to get done. Yeah?
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it's just prioritization.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh, exactly. And is there anything you prioritize over something else, or is it at the the way you feel? Is it just if the sun's out or not? Like, what's what's like what's on your mind? Where where do you want to go with those trades? You know, the the jack of all trades. So what's the future for you?
SPEAKER_08I feel like you just asked me eight questions. Yeah, in one so then I'm gonna try and I'm gonna try I'm gonna try and dissect them one by one. Um fair enough. Which one do you want answered? I don't know, man, it's over there with a machine gun just firing pussy. Alright, alright, valiant. Chill out, isn't it? One at a time. Question question. Please, inshallah, thank you. Inshallah, Khabi, you're doing too much, bro. Doing too much.
SPEAKER_03You started out as DJing, right? I did, I did, I did. Then you split out to other trays as well.
SPEAKER_08I did, yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_03If you look at them all now, what is your favorite one? Let me start with that.
SPEAKER_08DJing.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_08I will I don't think that will ever change.
SPEAKER_03Fair enough. Fair enough. And the fact that you do multiple genres. Um mostly two. Okay. And which one are which ones are those?
SPEAKER_08Dancehall and soca. Yes, exactly two.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Is that what you get booked for most as well?
SPEAKER_08Probably, yeah. Probably.
SPEAKER_03And then it was dancehall first and so later.
SPEAKER_08It was always soca. We I've never not played so it was just never as in-depth as it is now. So in the beginning, when I was playing soccer, we always had jump. We always had togetherness, we always had like we had phaloma ding ding. It was like maybe nine songs. Yeah. But it was the same for Afrobeats. Afrobeats back in 2007, 2009. It wasn't even called Afrobeats, it was called um Nine Life or Niger. Yeah. It was Hip Life. Ghanaian music was hip life.
SPEAKER_03High Life, right? One or the other.
SPEAKER_08It was Hip Life or High Life, and it was Niger music. So that was back then it was um it was like Congo. Yeah, that video coming out. I think that kind of changed to Afrobeats when we got um what was his name? I AvaCombish. Is it Tabanj? Yeah, I have a combish. Yeah, so that went mad viral. I meant global. We didn't have viral back then. It was like um, it was MTV. Yeah. So what we had for Soka uh was every carnival, we had a hit song. Yeah. So in 2010, 2011, that flipped over to Afrobeats, yeah, and that song I remember clearly was the monster for that summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That played everywhere across every board. So I'm more of a multi-genre DJ. I specialise in dancehall. Yeah, my secondary would be so and then everything else. Yeah, yeah. So at the time that I was playing, there was um the funny thing with dancehall, which is unlike soccer, is within dancehall you have to play everything. Yeah. So you've got to play the Celine Dions, you've got to play the reggae, you gotta they say we play hip hop, we play dancehall, but we play in a dance hall way. Yeah. Whereas so generally just plays so just like.
SPEAKER_03Well, that was my next question, actually, because you know, if we talk to Soka DJs, and myself included, you know, we're I mean, there's a lot of DJs that are very mono, like mono genre, if that's the opposite of multi-genre, like they just do one genre which is so we call them specialists, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Exactly, specialists, exactly.
SPEAKER_03So um would you give the specialist advice to look further than just soca? Because I can imagine it's a safer bet for um promotes as well to have somebody who can do multiple genres.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean it depends on the individual. Uh it's it's it's very dependent on what you want to do with your musical career. Yeah, so I can't say um if you love soaker and you want to specialise in that to do something else. Yeah, that wouldn't make that wouldn't be a fair um piece of advice to me to give you. But I would say you would severely limit the bookings you can get and where you can play if you specify in, for example, we got house DJs like Pioneer, you won't really see them outside of an event that's either incorporating house or a house specialist. Yeah, so it all depends on the individual.
SPEAKER_03Okay, fair enough. But you also uh started recording songs besides DJing?
SPEAKER_08It seems to be the case, yeah. Something happened there, yeah.
SPEAKER_03What happened there? Exactly.
SPEAKER_02How does that come about?
SPEAKER_08You're gonna have to ask Fats. That's um Fats did that. Fats Official. Yeah, Mr. Mr. Fats Official did that.
SPEAKER_06So Fats isn't here, so we're asking you. Well maybe you should interview him. No, but it was you that went into the studio, so can we just you know?
SPEAKER_08Why did you go into the studio? There we go. Fats told me to go into the studio.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_07It's not really complex. No, but it's not complex. Why did you decide to go? Fats said.
SPEAKER_06Why did you decide to go with what Fats said? You could have been like, no, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
SPEAKER_08Okay, then you can cut you. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Um I didn't have anything to record.
SPEAKER_03So then what you do? So you're standing in the studio because Fat stole you, and then you're there, and there's nothing to record, so what happened?
SPEAKER_08I don't know, like some of your interviews are long in it, so I don't want to give you uh full breath uh details of that's what I'm asking though. I don't know, I don't know what you want in it. I don't know how you how long you want this interview to be.
SPEAKER_06I just want you to answer our questions.
SPEAKER_08Watch your mouth, huh? Watch your mouth, Powerpuff, get out. Powerpuff! Oh watch your mouth, Blossom.
SPEAKER_03For the people who listen and do not watch it on YouTube, just go to YouTube.
SPEAKER_08One puff, not even two, just a one puff looking like a straggling hairdo.
SPEAKER_06Wow, could we what you said you wanted Banterful in it?
SPEAKER_08So I hear what you're saying isn't it?
SPEAKER_06But why is it always at the expense of me? Like, literally.
SPEAKER_08Well you're the one who came at me.
SPEAKER_06I didn't come at you.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, you didn't know. We just want you to talk about questions.
SPEAKER_06I didn't slam the table. You should have. You should have.
SPEAKER_08Some Vim in your chest, didn't it?
SPEAKER_06No, no, yo. Anyway.
SPEAKER_07So you're standing in the studio.
SPEAKER_08Nothing to record. That was a mad U-turn.
SPEAKER_03So I'm a verdict back to the interview now.
SPEAKER_08Before I got to the studio, there was a guy called, I didn't know his name at the time, but I went to I'd gone to a party in Harrow, which is Northwest London, and um the guy had done a song called You wanna fucking girl just sit down. Just sit down, just bung spun it. Bonks, bungs, bungs. I don't know if you know that song.
SPEAKER_06Oh, is that not Chuckaloo 4 Star. Okay, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08So Chuckaloo 4 Star had done a song, and that song had got lifted from a uh SoundCloud mixtape, and that went viral. And then prior to him, um I believe it's prior to him, C Live had done a song. I didn't know it was C Live at the time. There's a funny story with him as well. So C Live had done a song called Um You Aunt Speed, Gear 3, 1, 2, which again was lifted from a from a freestyle. So while he was DJing somewhere or making a mix somewhere, it was a raw mix, it was it wasn't a song, it was just like a freestyle. So these had happened, and I'd gone to this had happened before, and I'd gone to the um to the party, and I noticed that this guy had been flown out from New York. Oh wow. So I was chatting to Fats in the morning. It was about four o'clock, it was five o'clock in the morning. So Vibes had gone home. You know, we stand outside the rays for like an hour just chatting BS and Vibes had gone home and I messaged Fats and I was like, yo, we should get this guy to come to one of our parties. And Fats was like, uh, who is he? No, no disrespect, Chuckaloo, if you're listening to this podcast. But yeah, he did know who you were in it. So um I said to him, it's four star. He's like, who's four star? He's like, it's Chick-Loo and Dean. I go, who are they? It's like some guys from New York. It's like bruh, that man flew people over from New York. What song are you talking about? What song do they have? So I sent him the freestyle. He's like, bruv, it's not even a song.
SPEAKER_02It's a freestyle.
SPEAKER_08So I said to him, it kind of is, but he's like, nah, bruv, a song is a beat with an intro, with a verse, with an outro. Sound like this has been lifted from someone's soundcloud. Do you know what that's like? I'm like, it is a song, or if if that's what you think, then that's strong enough for somebody to fly them from New York that has enough of an impact. So facts is like, why are you telling me that? You should understand what's happening here. So I'm going, what are you talking about? I think they did good. They're good DJs. He's like, bruv, you do this every day, fam. This is what you do. You just shut your mouth off in raves. This is what you do. It's like, facts, man, why are you talking about me like that? I thought we were friends. It's like, nah, man, I mean serious, you always freestyle. You do bear, bear, bear freestyles. I was like, all right, cool. So he goes, you should go studio. And this happened over like a month and a half. He's like, you should go studio. I was like, why? I have nothing to record. It's like, go studio, record what you normally do in the raves. And I said to him, it's on the spot. So I if I'm in if I'm in a studio like this in a square space, there's no impetus. Yeah, there's no feed forward, there's no crowd girls over there, or this guy, or that's happening upstairs. So he's like, I don't care. I don't care. You better go studio. Better go studio by the end of the month. At that time, I had no access to a studio.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_08No, I didn't know where the studios were, I didn't know who to contact. I knew a couple of people were recording, but I didn't know what the deal was, what the prices were, and blah blah. So I spoke to Mac, because Mac was always recording, MAC.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_08And Mac was like, You're gonna come to my studio. He had said this like seven, eight months before. Yeah. Because I'd gone there when he was recording Wicked and Bad.
SPEAKER_06Oh, that changed.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I pushed him to go studio. So he had said, come to the studio and and sit in the session and sat in the session. I was like, Yeah, this is a vibe still. And then I left. I never came back. And then that's like go studio. So at the end of that summer, the I think it's the end of that summer, I think it was like August, late August, early September. I went in and I had I phoned Mac and Mac was like, yeah, I'm gonna arrange for you to meet GI. GI is the producer, the engineer. We went to meet GI and GI was like, boom, what you want to do? Can imagine just some raster guy with no like no no manners, no tech, just straight to the point, what do you want to do? I said, I don't know in it. Alright, go in the booth and we'll figure it out. So we went in the booth and then I started I started just MCing stuff. Yeah, but I had a I had a beat which was gauge, which is the good pussy gal forget things. That was the rhythm. And me and Fats had argued because he was like, yo, you should go in and use uh a different rhythm. I think he was saying use um I don't know the cocky, and I said, Too many people have used that. So I need to find a song that's like on the way up but not accessible to everyone. So that's how the gauge came about. Went in the studio and then I was like, Oh yeah, I know you need cocky girl. And G.I. was like, yeah, keep that. And that's how that song came about. So then I started it and then I had nothing else. I had nothing else. So I went home, I messed around in the studio, did some rough version, went home, and then I structured a bunch of freestyles that I had had over the years and sort of made them match the subject, then went back in. So if you listen to Ride It, which is my first ever song, if you listen to Ride It, there isn't really a structure.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_08There's like a four-inch, fifth-inch, six-inch, ready for ready for ride for ride, then back up on the pedal and pedal and pedal, which that's like a it's like a 12-bar chorus.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Really should be a four or an eight. So I was just chatting off my mouth in the studio, and yeah, I was like, I keep that, and he would drag it down and move it across, and that's that's how I ended up in the studio. So blame fats for the scourge of my voice on the planet. It would have just stayed as SoundCloud mixes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But then you you really picked it up quickly, as in now you talk about bars already. Yeah, that's not something I mean in DJ, yes, in the DJ world you do think about bars and you think about mixes, but writing your own song, thinking about your own song, that's a whole different ballgame, right? I mean, but you figured it out pretty quick then. So is there anything you would say to people who who think about starting recording as well, like just do it, or like think about structure first or advice for anyone that wants to do it um research.
SPEAKER_08Research and find out what you like first before you jump into anything. That's what I'd say. Anyone can do anything but you know, um figure out what you like, and then like I said, I knew about verses and bars and stuff, but again, write it was like half a freestyle, half a song. Yeah, but then my next songs were all songs, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03If that makes sense, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Like full fledged, yeah, structured so you don't need to know what you're doing, but once you get into something, work backwards and try and figure out because then you look like an idiot in the studio when everyone's like, give me a two-bar bridge, or give me a breakdown, or give me an outro, give me an intro. Uh you got main vocals, you got back end vocals, you got second backend vocals, you got stabs, you got ad libs. So when a when an engineer is talking to you and he's going, Is this your is this your main? And you're like, Yes, but it's not my and then you record again and you record stronger than your main, then he's like, You've got two mains, which one do you want? And then part of one might sound better than the other one. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So it's good to know what you're doing. So just research a little bit, or just go in the studio with someone who's a bit more experienced and just mess around. Yeah, that too. Yeah, yeah. That's what I would say. That too.
SPEAKER_03I like it. And I like researching, you know that.
SPEAKER_08So yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you with with what you like researching, but you don't stop.
SPEAKER_03So that's true. That's true.
SPEAKER_08Don't be compounded with everything that you need to learn.
SPEAKER_03That's that's another good piece of advice, I would say.
SPEAKER_08Learn and apply, learn some more, apply, learn and apply, learn and apply. Don't just learn and get to apply, exactly. Then get nervous to apply, just learn and apply.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Don't overthink it. That's advice from me to everybody else. Exactly.
SPEAKER_08Alright, cool. But you're you're on a song as well. You're on like two songs.
SPEAKER_06I'm not on any songs.
SPEAKER_08Inshallah, Khabibi. You're gonna just sit here and lie.
SPEAKER_06What songs am I on?
SPEAKER_08Aren't you aren't you in the background going babukam in in Mali?
SPEAKER_03How did I not know about this?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, she's in songs, bro.
SPEAKER_06Ice cream.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. When he goes, what's your favourite vanilla?
unknownSorry?
SPEAKER_06No, I don't say vanilla. I say bubblegum. There's another one I think I say.
SPEAKER_07Raspberry strawberry.
SPEAKER_06Strawberry. Strawberry.
SPEAKER_07Right, that needs to go.
SPEAKER_06No, I don't know if it's me that says bubblegum.
SPEAKER_08You say I think two of them. You say bubblegum bubblegum is you.
SPEAKER_06I can't remember.
SPEAKER_03You're gonna have to put it in the episode now.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, she.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08You gotta interview her. Yeah, so how was it? Oh, for goodness sake, you gotta do the whole interview with her. She's acting like she's got no accolade, she's a big artist out here.
SPEAKER_06Definitely not.
SPEAKER_08Well, we've got to like sympathize. Size and drop out and pitch down and tone up her voice. But she's there. She's there in the sideground. No other channel. Wow. T shirt on, isn't it? T shirts. Wow. You're outside, man.
SPEAKER_06I'm not outside. I'm inside. Believing myself.
SPEAKER_07Jesus. Jesus. Can we stop?
SPEAKER_06Come on. Come on. Come on. You said you're not outside. Come on. Come on. Okay.
SPEAKER_08Shorting.
SPEAKER_06Lomina. Laomina.
SPEAKER_03As always, before I'm going to go to the next topic, because we're talking about your songs now, right? Sure. So as always, we have three of our favorites.
SPEAKER_06Before we get to the three favourites, can I actually talk? Because all you've been doing is just trying China. You've not tried. I was going to say, haven't I been waiting every now and then?
SPEAKER_08There's been pauses for you to question. Yeah. And you sat over there and said, I'll just can you guys leave me on this, please. Please.
SPEAKER_06Stop it, guys. That is not how I sound.
SPEAKER_08Watch, watch when he edits this. Right there's gonna be chasu. Every single time.
SPEAKER_09Helicopter. Helicopter.
SPEAKER_03That's what I'm gonna use as a new interesting though. So Sharon's do you have any questions?
SPEAKER_06100%. As you know, your Red It song is Dancer. But we know that you've collabed with a few Soga artists. So we've got Jaguar, we've got Classic Frescobar, we've got Freezy, and then obviously you've you've made a couple of songs uh produced by Anotoxie. I think was it Bounce? Yeah. Island Gyal by Anatoxy. Was there another one?
SPEAKER_08There's like three on release, but yeah.
SPEAKER_06Okay. Yes. So how did you kind of venture into getting featured on Sogo Artist tracks? How did that come about?
SPEAKER_08Trasco Bar reached out, Team reached out, uh did a verse for he's got the song Duty. Yes. I did a verse for that, but that never made the cut, unfortunately. Oh no, that's sad. Yeah, so yeah. Uh Cheem, anywhere you are, man. F you. I'm joking. Now I'm playing. Um you reached out. Uh how did I make the link? I've got two songs of classic. One of them is on release. Oh, okay. Is it going to be released? Uh uh well, it depends. It depends on them, but I am gonna release everything that I record. I like it. I have no intentions of keeping anything. So I'll wait for them, I'll give them an ample period of time, maybe one year, two years. But after that, all of my content's coming out. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm not I'm not waiting until I die for people to be putting out my stuff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm not doing that. So anything that I work on that I've brought to completion will be put out. Classic reached out to me after he did 5, 10, 15 with Marsville. Okay, yeah. And he was like, yo, I want to get you on a track. And um, In and Out. We did In N Out, that was our first track.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, you did two, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Ah what three songs of Classic?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08So two are on no four songs, two are unreleased, two are out. So In N Out was the first song we did, and that was his idea. The second song that I did was um rever is it reverse it? Reverse it or generate it. So reverse it, and that link was made with Boogie Dup. So Boogie, I I before Boogie's Boogie's taking off now. Yeah. So before Boogie took off and was doing stuff with Dev and all of that, he only had the song with Cheem. Yeah. And then I reached out to Boogie and Boogie sent me a couple of beats, and I said, bro, whatever you're doing, pump these out, keep pumping these out. Yeah. So Boogie sent me beats, and then I sent them to Cali, I sent them to um Squeeche, I sent them to Marley, and we started putting songs back, and then Boogie started reaching out to other artists and bit by bit. So the song with classic fresco bar, I had that song, which was supposed to be Jaguar. Jaguar wanted that song. Um Jaguar wanted to reverse it because I had sent him the lyrics. So me and Jaguar had done well in Freaky, and I sent him the lyrics. He's like, Well, I can't do a beige and access. Try and do it, please. It's gonna say I'm gonna bite my tongue off, bro.
SPEAKER_02Please.
SPEAKER_08He said, What's he saying? What going on with that song? I know with that song. I like that something like I like that song, innit? And I was like, What? And he's like, I like that song. So what are you doing with that song? And I said, I have nothing with it, I don't have a beat. So this is before I'd done anything with Boogie, I'd just written this song and sent it to him. Yeah, and then Boogie sent over a bunch of beats and I picked the reverse it beat. I recorded reverse it a year before that rhythm came out. Oh shit. Yeah, that was I sent that to her and a couple other people a long time in advance. Yeah, wow. And then I sat on that song, and then Boogie said, Um, do you think I should release it as a single or as a rhythm? And I said, No, go for a rhythm. Yeah, yeah. So that's when I put classic on there. So Boogie sent Classic the Rhythm, and then he sent, I think he sent my song, and Marley had done a demo, and he said, Um, this is what we're going with. You know, the skip song. Classic was like, I like that song.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_08So Classic he hit me up and he did a little intro, then he did a back uh uh N-verse, and yeah, that's how reverse it was born. Um Wild and Freaky Kai hit me up.
SPEAKER_03Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In our in our SX. Yeah, we had him on the show.
SPEAKER_08So Kai hit me, so that I had a rhythm, and then Jaguar hit me, and he was like, Yeah, I can't do the accent. We're like, I want the slackness, I want that stuff that you do. And I was like, Alright, fool. Alright, fool. Say no, let's get this, just get this broke. That's your expertise. I was gonna say that's your ex yeah. So he's like, Yeah, and then that's how Wild and Freaky was born, and then uh Spider hit me. So I've got two songs of Spider that are unreleased. Nice, yeah, and he hit me with all due respect. Uh he said, Um, I've written a song based off of one of your songs, and I think you're perfect for it. So he sent me the lyrics, and I said, Uh Spider, I'm gonna have to rewrite this. I mean, you stick to the beats, uh, but I'll do the lyrics. And he's like, Alright, cool, do your thing. So we'll do the song with him. So is that coming out as far as you know? Everything I record is coming out. I just need to have it. I don't care if they agree with it, I don't care if they say yes, I'm I'll apologize after. So I don't care if they hear this podcast, everything that I record is coming out.
SPEAKER_06So you better release that.
SPEAKER_08So if you don't want to recruit, holler at me, give me a date, give me a time, take my PRS number, take my BMI number, and do your thing. You can give me 1%, you could give me 10%. But if I put it out, it's a hundred percent me. So I've got a song with Fanatics that I've put out, but yeah, that's that's the Soka Collabs. I don't think I have any more. Notoxi reached out, yeah. Notoxie reached out and he reached out twice, and one of the beats, he sent me four beats, and I liked Bounce, and that turned into a rhythm, but that was already a rhythm. Oh, okay, yeah, and I didn't know. So he sent me that and then he released it as a rhythm, and then Island Guy was one of the songs he sent me that was unreleased. Okay, so he sent me like five songs, and I liked that one. And I said, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take that one and then put Marley on that. Yeah, shout out to Freezy. I reached out to Freezy. Freeze was here for the summer, so we were doing up road together, innit? Yeah, so when we did up road, I said, Yeah, on a verse, you know. And he was like, I can't do a Lucian accent. No, just try it. Here we go again. Sweet immediately, I can't I can't laugh about this because my accent is three times as worse. So he's like, Yeah, cool. So we did a we took him to the studio, he recorded, and that verse sat there for about I think a month, and then me and me and Marley went in and recorded. Yeah, so I no actually I'm lying, I'd written the whole song. I'm lying, I'm lying. I recorded the whole song, so they lifted one of my verses and put that in the bin. Uh and then I said this would be good with Marley. So I lifted my other verse and put Marley in the song. Yeah, so the song songs never really stay the same, they consistently change. So that's how Freezy came about. I don't think I don't think I have any other yeah, I don't think I have any I have any other features. Finnace it.
SPEAKER_03Well it's not it's not a short list, so that is a very long list.
SPEAKER_08Well, there would have been more, but I can't I'm a bit picky about who I hear that work with.
SPEAKER_03How's that?
SPEAKER_08In what sense?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly that's my question. In what sense are you picky?
SPEAKER_08Um I have to like the project.
SPEAKER_03Okay, got it. Is it the beat? Is it the the way everything?
SPEAKER_08First it's the beat, so I have to like the beat, and then I have to like the pause. I have to like the body of work that the person put out. I was gonna say like the person, but we can't like people, bro.
SPEAKER_06I don't think RKO is in the loop about this whole pause business.
SPEAKER_08He's gonna learn. Oh, he will learn. I'm gonna have to. So yeah. So it depends on mostly it's the beat. If I get a vibe from the beat, I'll automatic I'll automatically have but then if the verse of the person you work with is shit.
SPEAKER_03I mean it happens. I'm not saying it happens, but you change it. Okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you change it. So are there like any soccer artists that you would like to collab with in the future?
SPEAKER_08Bungie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A1 Day one, bungee, um, lava. Okay. Big fan of Lava, Boise. Um I would say uh Mr. Killer. Seems like I'm going down the Greens lane right now. Yeah, yeah. I don't mind. We're in the 473 right now. Yeah. I wouldn't say he's a he's a produ he's an artist, but Avalanche, USVI. He's a great producer. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06Okay. I thought he was a D a DJ, is that?
SPEAKER_08That's what I said, yeah. He's a DJ.
SPEAKER_06Oh, sorry, I didn't hear it.
SPEAKER_08He's a DJ. But he's some of the songs that he produced, you know, and you don't even notice him.
SPEAKER_06Oh man.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so Avalanche is one. I'm a big fan of um Patrice. Patrice again. I've liked Patrice for years. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Patrice. And she's putting it into uh a new gear now with her I'm not gonna say commercial, but it's it's more people like it more. People outside the soaker scene. You know what I mean. The whole uh uh mind drink water.
SPEAKER_06Oh drink water, man, my business.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that that took off. That took off on TikTok though. Yeah, that's what I mean.
SPEAKER_06Talking about TikTok. How have we not spoken about his monster song?
SPEAKER_08Because you were talking about soaker features.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I hear it.
SPEAKER_08That's that's where you went to, so I'm I'm presuming that you're gonna end up going over there eventually.
SPEAKER_06I hear what you're saying.
SPEAKER_08Do you hear it loudly?
SPEAKER_06Loud and clear.
SPEAKER_07Is it clear and loud?
SPEAKER_06Loud and clear. Just pause, fire, large splash.
SPEAKER_08I'll just jump in on things and you don't know what you're talking about. Research.
SPEAKER_06No, but your monster song, because we we we got on the subject of TikTok, and obviously Patrice's song went completely viral on on TikTok. I play that obviously in a commercial setting, and almost everybody knows the song.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Tick pon I can't say the word because I'm trying not to swear. Tick Tick Pon.
SPEAKER_08No, no, no, but yeah, but your podcast is your podcast clean.
SPEAKER_06No, it's not clean, but I'm trying to be clean.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that that was like my new New Year's resolution like two years ago.
SPEAKER_03You didn't manage you didn't manage.
SPEAKER_06No, but I'd cut it down in many. It's a title, so you're alive.
SPEAKER_03It's the title.
SPEAKER_06No, but I'm not gonna do it. Tick pon male hen.
SPEAKER_08Male hen. Fire. Ticket fire.
SPEAKER_06Pause. Tick pon C O C K. That song. Wait, that is how I spell it, right?
SPEAKER_03I've got so many questions.
SPEAKER_06No, but it might have had a different spelling. Like TikTok, the tick in the TikTok is only T-I-K, like in the actual app TikTok.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Can we can we move on to the question?
SPEAKER_06Anyway, as I was saying, I checked it the latest streaming numbers. It's on six point seven million right now. Did you imagine that it would go that viral?
SPEAKER_08100%.
SPEAKER_06Oh mad.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh.
SPEAKER_08Well, no, nobody puts work out and don't think that they can go far.
SPEAKER_06No, but I I hear what you're saying.
SPEAKER_086.7. That wasn't a number that I had.
SPEAKER_06Stop adding points to it.
SPEAKER_08Well, technically it's done more.
SPEAKER_06I hear what you're saying, but I'm just talking about that one video. Yeah, that YouTube video.
SPEAKER_08But there's two videos on YouTube.
SPEAKER_06I hear what you're saying. But I'm talking about the main video that the main video is the one I recorded.
SPEAKER_03Are we gonna link it?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we can do.
SPEAKER_03So people also can see it and we can move it up to seven million? Because we have about you know 300,000 people listening to this. 100%.
SPEAKER_06So we've got like half a million listeners. Come on, don't small up our thing. But yeah. So you fully expected it to do extremely well.
SPEAKER_08I expect all of my work to do well.
SPEAKER_06Fair enough.
SPEAKER_03Did you expect this one to do better than other?
SPEAKER_08I expect all of my work to do well.
SPEAKER_06But this was like your second song, right? That you released?
SPEAKER_08No.
SPEAKER_06It wasn't the second.
SPEAKER_08Uh no, Coconut came out before that.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, I've got my coconut.
SPEAKER_08And so did Bacaza side. And Back as And the Rhythm came out before that. Yeah. Back as rhythm came out before that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Coconut Rhythm came out before that.
SPEAKER_06Mm-mm.
SPEAKER_08So yeah, your timeline's a bit sideways.
SPEAKER_06I hear what you're saying.
SPEAKER_08Inshallah. Research. Repetition of I Hear What You're Saying. Okay. Gotta figure something else out. Yes, please. Yes, go. So I have no idea what's going on, guys. So that is just back and forth by now. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Well, let's talk about our top three of your songs.
SPEAKER_08That's why you were asking me about TikTok. Can you finish it that way?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because I just feel like.
SPEAKER_03Is there anything you want to add to it?
SPEAKER_08Um yeah, there's a whole story behind that story. Please.
SPEAKER_03Can we not make it one of our top three?
SPEAKER_08No, you can't, because you've already picked your top three.
SPEAKER_03But I still want to hear the story. No. Yes.
SPEAKER_06I don't want to hear the story now because I'm just I'm annoyed. Trigger!
SPEAKER_08Anyways, I was on my way to Turkey. I had a booking in Turkey. It was a Turkey weekender, I believe it was.
SPEAKER_03A Turkey weekender. Yeah. Dennis Hall.
SPEAKER_08So it's a mixture. Okay. Well, it wasn't so good, but it's a mixture. Okay. I would say it's more dance or hip-hop RB. And I uh prior to that, I have a a dance group, I have a group that we promotion group. So I had this idea beginning of January. This is January. I had this idea.
SPEAKER_03January what year? Is it before or after COVID?
SPEAKER_08It's it's it's before. Before yeah, yeah. So it's the year of COVID. Nice. That song came out in 2019. 2020. So I had this idea and I'd sent it to the group, and I'd sent there's a bunch of dancers in my group, and I said to them, Wouldn't it be cool if you guys just did a video ticking to a grandfather clock? And I sent it in the group and they shat on my idea.
SPEAKER_06Oh, that's sad.
SPEAKER_08They were like, yo, this is dead. This is shit. Wow. Why would anybody tick to a grandfather clock? But you know the clocks I'm talking about, the big colour. Yeah, yeah, the big one that they have in that top of Jerry films. Yeah, yeah. So at that time, before right now, we're in a we're in a we're in a era of content creation. Yeah. I was thinking about content creation then. So I was thinking, imagine if, because then from there it would have gone on to raindrops. So imagine if you, you know, like a water droplet. Yeah, yeah. So I would have made more stuff like that. Yeah. But they shat on the idea. And I said, Alright, cool, you don't understand. So I I put it down and I told I told Vibes, make me a beat. I need a beat. And I gave him a specification. And Vibes is the longest person in the world. Vibes is the longest person. So he's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Hungy, yeah, I'm gonna make it a beat. I started it, but he won't send what he's at. So I won't hear nothing until he's like halfway through or almost finished. So cool. Um I started writing this song, and it's like, tick, talk, don't stop. Because I was writing to the grandfather clock. Oh yeah, yeah. So then I added and I was like, okay, cool. And I wrote that and I put it down. And then at about March around my birthday, I put this idea back to the group again. I was like, yo, I think this idea can work, you know. And they were like, you're back with this shit. So nothing happened. So fast forward to so I'm lying, this was 2019. So fast forward to October, I was on a flight to Turkey and C Live had done that freestyle. Uh-huh. So I was on the plane, and I remember it was me and uh do you remember the guys that do the drinking games? Um Team Surreal.
SPEAKER_06That's the one.
SPEAKER_08Right. So I'm on this flight, right? I've got the window seat. I always I always ask for the window seat. So I'm jamming at the window seat, I got my headphones on, and I'm playing I don't know. Well you'll do a video for you, and I'm writing this song. So I'm like, this is the tempo I want, this is the beat I want. This is a similar idea for the beat, but this isn't the beat, but this is what I've got. Yeah. So I'm writing this song, I'm like, Benova, yeah, Benova, Benova, like something jump. And then I said, This is an accident, but I went, mmm, like I like this, I like that. Benova likes. I was like, mmm, and I'm like, oh. So I wrote down in my in my phone, I wrote down M M M H M. No, mmm, mmm. Slowly, Archer. So you hear it in the song. So I wrote that song. So it was, I think it was like a two and a half hour flight to Turkey, even two or three hours or something like that. I wrote the whole song, I finished it. I finished the whole song, got off the plane, and I was like, yeah, cool.
SPEAKER_03Waiting for vibes.
SPEAKER_08Go back. Then I hit vibes again. I was like, Vibes.
SPEAKER_03Where's my beat?
SPEAKER_08I need a beat, I need a beat. Vives was like, oh Hunji, I'm busy. So uh I think Nats B started to send me a couple of beats, and I was like, oh, your beats are okay, but nothing has hit me yet. Yeah, so I told him, okay, make me a beat like this. Make me this with this. He made it. I didn't like what he made, so we jumped on FaceTime and I co-produced, so I changed this and I moved it up and down, and then he sent me the beat, and I said, Yep, this is it. This is it. I went in the studio and I record everything in one take. There's no back end vocals, everything was one take. Uh-huh. Everything was one take. And I think at the end I was messing around, and producer was like, Yeah, keep that. Keep that. So I was like, that's the song. Nice. That song there was like my easiest, this easiest song I wrote. That rock and Bacchas were the three easiest songs I wrote. Uh-huh. Everything else I kind of watched. It came to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and roll. Roll was my I loved roll. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Roll was one of my favorites. You have plenty to talk about. So, first of all, before we go into top three, I just want to show the audience a bit what the TikTok song is. Okay. So we'll just do a little clip now.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03Let's go.
SPEAKER_06Yo.
SPEAKER_08Let's go. I thought we were left.
SPEAKER_06He felt left out.
SPEAKER_08I thought we were all doing this left in. Ain't nobody leaving me out of shit. Do that shit again.
SPEAKER_06Let's go.
SPEAKER_08Let's go. Let's go. Ben over, y'all. Bend over. Ben over. Just like that. Mm-hmm. Ben over, y'all. Ben over. Ben over like something drop. Mm-hmm. Slowly. Arch your back. Sink it in and arch your back. Take your time and arch your back. No, get ready for start the TikTok. Listen from a countdown before your TikTok. When Mr. 12, tick like a clock. Follow instructions. This is around one. Nine, ten, eleven, twelve, and tick. Stop. Tink ting.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna take it back to the whole DJing thing because yeah. Because obviously you don't see yourself as an artist. You've been screaming for time. I'm not an artist, I'm a DJ that makes music.
SPEAKER_08That's correct. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So I'm gonna go back to that. Obviously, you started out well before we knew you on the soccer scene, you were more in the dance hall scene before, am I correct? I'm saying that. Yeah. Now that you're in the soccer scene, you've infiltrated the soaker scene with your filth, your crud, your everything.
SPEAKER_08Nah.
SPEAKER_06Did you get like a a pushback? Oh, pause. Nah. Did you get like resistance or not making it better, yo?
SPEAKER_03Not making it better.
SPEAKER_06My geez.
SPEAKER_01Pause.
SPEAKER_06When you when you transitioned into pause, you didn't translate. Trans- Oh when you when you when you went into the soccer scene. Yeah, that that works. I was telling you.
SPEAKER_08Did you Yeah, that works, that works.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, when you went into the soccer scene, did people sort of kind of give you not give you a hard time, but ah, pause. No, that's fine.
SPEAKER_03Get rid of the pass thing and just ask the question, please.
SPEAKER_07Jesus. Overdoing it.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so when you went into the soccer scene, did people sort of give you not stick? Stick. Sorry, let me stop the pause.
SPEAKER_08A difficult time.
SPEAKER_06Did it have like did it give you a difficult time? Did they were they like, but you're a dancer DJ, why are you here?
SPEAKER_03It still happens now. Really? Yeah, it still happens now. Well, it's pointless.
SPEAKER_06And what is your view on it?
SPEAKER_08Uh I think the Sokka community is very it's a nuanced community. So they're very much insular and they like things done the way that things have always been done. They are not fans of change. Okay. So I knew that coming into that scene. I knew that making that transition. I know they like their music and the way that they they like your hosting a certain way. Of course, yeah. They like their energy a certain way. But I also knew that there isn't much diversity in that scene. So coming into a scene that is nuanced and you stand out, it's gonna do two things for you. It's gonna either polarize you or it's gonna get you work. And I decided to go with my style. Um I think you're gonna get that sort of resistance in anything you do. Yeah, so I I got it in dance hall. They say, Oh, you talk too much. Okay, when I go into soca, they say, Oh, you're you're too dirty, you're you're too filthy. And then I say, Okay, so 5, 10, 15, 20, 10, 10. Yeah, exactly. The songs have been saying the same thing, it's just clouded in in wordplay, yeah. Exactly. Uh push it in the kitchen.
SPEAKER_06Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_08So it's it's nothing that we haven't, and the whole the whole Caribbean energy of walking up and dancing, there's nothing clean about that. Yeah, yeah. There's nothing, I don't mean it as it's a dirty thing, it's our culture, it's what we do. Yeah, yeah. But there's nothing, this it's not the waltz. You know what I mean? No, exactly.
SPEAKER_06Like there's nothing PG 13 about it.
SPEAKER_08No, exactly. There's it's not Beethoven playing, and and I've got my hand on your upper back, and you've got yours on my shoulders, and we're we're shuffling around together. It's not that. So I never had a problem with that because the music pioneered that before I did. So
SPEAKER_03But I guess it's also kind of a genre, right? Because I think we had a discussion before in in one of the earlier episodes where I think we were mentioning like if you look at Soka in D, there's there's like the there's genres of Soka, right? There's the the the easy going, the the groovy, then there's a power, there's just power, the jump, you know, that sort of stuff. But then now there's also the the dusty, the the the the um especially Bayesian Soka, where it's just five, ten, fifteen, twenty, you know, that sort of soca.
SPEAKER_08That's not new though.
SPEAKER_03It's not, but it's getting bigger. Like it's it's more of uh I'm not gonna call it a hype, because it's not a hype. But it's it's the genre is is is catching more light, if that's a thing. Okay. Um at least that's how I see it. So I didn't do any statistics or anything like that, but I see more people enjoying it. Maybe that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_06No, it's the conversation that we had before is that Ahsoka now is becoming more X-rated. Yeah, like before.
SPEAKER_03It's moving too dancehall, maybe a bit like I wouldn't say that. No, I wouldn't say that.
SPEAKER_06They're just the the words they're just being more vulgar and open about it, not using innuendos.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it's just I'll throw a curveball and I'll say your parents would say that your generation is garbage, and you would say that the Gen Z is garbage. And when Gen Z grows up, Gen Z will say that the Gen X is garbage because each parameter pushes the boundaries. I watched that I watched a video um two weeks ago about what dancehall was like in the 70s and 80s. Uh-huh. It was so tame.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It was so tame. But this is what I mean. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08It was like people dancing together, but they weren't even rubbing or whining together. It was just like a like a rubber dub, yeah. And it was like you facing me, and we were dancing together, and then 10 years later, it changed. And then 10 years later in the 90s, it changed. Like dance all queens came out, and so the music went more vulgar, more it went with the culture. Yeah, yeah. So the younger people didn't want to do, and you've got to realize youngers don't want to do what their parents did. Nope. So the younger people come forward and go, Dalawine, that's dead. Let's do Dati Wine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you transition through the Soka, it's the same. So Soka was Calypso, yeah. There horns and tinkerbells and still bands and rhythm sections, and then that transitioned into to soca, and then sound into what we have now. And then within Soka, for the first time, we're having prominence in islands. Yeah, yeah. So normally Trinidad, we had Trinidad Soka. Yeah. And then Antigua would have its own soca, but it's for Antigua. Yeah. And then and St. Kitts would have its own toca, but it's for St. Kitts. And then the diaspora of who traveled from St. Kitts would then take that music with them. But if you don't have a large um diaspora of Kitticians in the UK, you're gonna get what music is popular. Yep. This is true with the islands that are here. So this is something that you guys don't see, but in America, the Haitians are massive. Yeah, yeah. The Haitian community is massive in America, and the Puerto Rican community is massive. So you have a lot more reggaeton and a lot more Haitian, like uh Compa, Kizomba, Merengue. You have a lot more of that. Whereas I've seen uh American DJs be like, Yo, my Haitian community expecting a massive Haitian community, they don't exist here. No, exactly. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, when you go there, I don't even think to big up Haitians because I'm not used to that. No, exactly. You see what I'm saying? So if it's you we have Bash Mathsoka, and I trouble her all the time. I'm like, I can't understand what they're saying. Yeah, but Bashman Soka has been a prominent part of Bayesian history for ages, it's just now some of the songs are blowing, and then we had that suppression of the older generation, which is like what you guys are saying, is like oh Soka's becoming more vulgar. The older generation try to keep a lid on it. Yeah, so if you had to get your song played on radio, it had to be a clean song, yeah, like Pump Me Up or you know, Turn Me On or something. Have you listened to the lyrics of Turn Me On?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_08Have you actually listened to the lyrics? Yeah, vulgar. My mum used to play a song called Um, it's it Get the Cat, Get the Cat, Get the Cat, Get the Cat, Get the Cat. Somebody Pussycat. What do you think she's talking about? Exactly. My mum used to sing that song while she's cooking up chicken in the on a Sunday. I'm around the house that's sweeping out somebody, pussy cat. Look at that.
SPEAKER_02I'm like Excuse me.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but at that age we don't really understand. I'm not that age anymore. Oh Matty.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I mean, even now, like the whole um what's the new there's a couple of jobs, job songs out. Um Took Mechell. Oh yeah. Who took Michelle? Yeah, and then there's now one with um I looking uh vogina?
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, that's um on the Lord Have Us Mercy with him. That's mole and that's that's the invasions do. Yeah, I think mole and walks, I believe.
SPEAKER_03It's sort of like they can defend it for no, no, it's not vulgar, but yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so now we have a mixture of that. Yeah. So so do we think Soko is more vulgar? I think Soko was always vulgar. Yeah, it's just each generation expresses it. Because remember, the generation that came up, those artists come from that generation. Yeah, yeah. So then the new generation of artists are going, well, look at young Bretter. These guys are more freestylers, they're more MC's. So they're like, why can't we say what we want to say instead of being because now you don't need the radio, so a lot of music was suppressed because you needed radio airplay, you don't need that no more. So if a man can send this stuff viral on TikTok, Instagram Reels, on Facebook, on Twick Twitter Twitter, you no longer need and you don't need record labels. We used to be stuck with Island Records and Def Jam Caribbean or whatever it may be. We don't need that no more. Remember back in the day, 2007, 2008, you had like reggae, the best of reggae gold.
SPEAKER_03Oh god, yeah. That's what we used to have.
SPEAKER_08Reggae gold and green sleeves. We don't have that no more. Anybody can now go into a studio and be an independent artist and put their music out. So now that's changing the dynamic of the music because you're taking the limitations off the people. Imagine how many talented people that's come about that got suppressed because somebody told them you sung too dirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't like your vibe, we don't want that on our radio station, and that will quash that person's whole confidence. And so they go away and go, uh, I might as well go work for this company because this they don't like my style. And now those people now are looking at the industry here going, Imagine if I was of this type.
SPEAKER_03Yep, exactly. Yeah, yeah. But actually, I like what you're saying because basically what you're saying is is now a reflection of of you know what people. Yeah, exactly. If if if if there's a dirty song out and people like it and they they view it and you get views, and you go bright, it's the culture viral, then yes.
SPEAKER_08It's the colour right now, dancehall is in a place where we have dancehole trap.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_08The other generation is like we don't like this. Dancehole is doom doom doom doom. Yes. The the dancehole trap is doom kg doom. And they're like, Yeah, that's not dancehole. Who's to say?
SPEAKER_03Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_08The kids are creating that, the new generation are creating that, and if they go, if they're saying drift is what they like, then who are you to tell them not to make drift?
SPEAKER_03It's honestly the moment I fear in my life, like when I grow up and I listen to the news hook, I'm like, what is this nonsense? You know, like oh, I don't want that moment to happen.
SPEAKER_08Now you either like songs or you don't, innit?
SPEAKER_03That's true, but you know what I mean, right?
SPEAKER_08Like the whole genre is like it used to be, and uh if you stay with the music, you'll find you'll find that there's nostalgia in when you used to party. So when you went to parties and you heard I say um pressure by Ricky T, my pressure mad, you have attachments to that time of when you were enjoying yourself in a party. Exactly. You leave that party scene as a middle-aged or late 20-year-old and you go, I don't want to rave no more, I want to go to comedy shows, I want to travel now, I want to experience different parts of life. Your musical raving stops there.
SPEAKER_07Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_08So five years down the line, someone comes to you and plays, you know, Jenna Jenna. You're going, What is this? Because you've not kept up with the music. If you keep up with the music, it's a matter of I like this and I don't like this. But if you don't, if there's gaps in your musical um archive, you're gonna end up in situations where you as raving like to Panda River, Panda Bank, and coolie dance rhythm. Those were our things in 2005. Yeah, now you've got drift and you've got you've got different the the routines for dancehalls are no longer simple. No, exactly. They're TikTok routine, their whole like 30-second routines.
SPEAKER_03That's what I when I come here to London and you know I I go to a show and they do all these little dances. It's completely different dancers. I'm just sitting there like what the Yeah, it's completely different.
SPEAKER_08And that's it's good because that means the music lives on, yeah, it grows on. But if there's gaps in your raving um appertoire, you're gonna come across these situations. So true. It's so true. So music and and tastes and changes, it's it's nuanced, it's very specific to you, especially if there was a time frame where you was raving hard or you was listening to Soka hard and you kept up to all of these songs, and then you disappear. Yeah, you become a mum, you become a dad, you buy a house, you settle down into a normal routine, then you're gonna miss out gaps in the music.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. That's true. I have to do with hip hop because I used to be very active in a hip-hop scene, and then I'm not anymore. And now, whenever I listen to hip-hop, like it's not hip-hop, yeah, but it is, it is just not what the hip hop you're used to. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's changed. Interesting, I like it. So three. So my number three is actually my favorite as well. Um, and there's something to discuss about the song as well in my eyes. But it is rock. And should we just start listening to it and then ask the questions? Because we would never get to the point where we're gonna listen to it. This is true. So let's listen to it first.
SPEAKER_06This is rock by Super Nitro featuring or you featuring on it.
SPEAKER_08It's me featuring on it.
SPEAKER_06Oh, so rock by Marley featuring Super Nitro. Let's go. So that dead accent. Um is that, bro?
SPEAKER_08Bring in my things better than that, bro. What are you doing?
SPEAKER_06I'm not bringing in nobody's things.
SPEAKER_08I'm not rateing your teeth. I'll just do better in it. Who the hell is that?
SPEAKER_06It's you. But that's that's how listen, yeah. This guy, when he's in parties and all the girls are flocking around, oh, it's super nitro. Hi, super nitro. Oh, striking.
SPEAKER_08Alana sounds different.
SPEAKER_06Super nitro.
SPEAKER_08Oh, not even. That was a whole tangent. I was gonna say I'm number three, one of your favorites, it's rock, Mamma Lee, Super Nitro. Let's get into this. Uh let's go. Talking about it, mister Back, midnight body, rap, rock, one body, rock, one body, no bad one in custom, tiny for the mister, body, middle wanna take block. They wanna young rap on three tiny blocks with a no rap split in the middle, no to work no one. No, sticky one of the comfort, stick on the top, like double tap, split from the clap like split mama rack, rip on the clock. You know you like the one you rock, rock, mummy buddy, rock, rap, rock, comedy buddy. No bad with the fast one in custom.
SPEAKER_03That was rock. I like the beats. I've always said to you the beat is fire. Oh yeah. And I think it finally got picked up too now, because there's no rhythm out, right? On that beat with that. No, just another song. Just one song, it's not a rhythm. No, no, no. I'm disappointed. Yeah. Yeah. Should be a rhythm.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I think it's fine with just the two songs. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03No. I'm on a rhythm.
SPEAKER_06For goodness sake, I'll have it.
SPEAKER_08Let them know how you feel.
SPEAKER_06Nah. No, I think it's fine as it is. And I know obviously the new song Target by Mole and Jaguar is doing bits in Barbados. Other way around. Jaguar and Mole. Jaguar and Mole. Yeah. Jaguar featuring Mole. Yeah, it's it's doing a lot in Barbados right now. So talk to us about you know whoops, how that song came about.
SPEAKER_08Right, so story time. Yes, please. Another four hours on this podcast. You've been ducking me for time, so I'm gonna get all my raps off. Yes, anyway. So Rock came about. Rock is actually quite a cool story. Um 2019 or 2020, I think I got hit up by Enzo, who was 17 or 18 at the time. Okay. And he hit me and he's like, uh, I've been trying to send my beats to a bunch of people. No one's been listening. Can I send you some beats for you to listen to? If you like any of them, do your thing. He sent me four beats and I chose two of those beats. Um, rock was the first one. But when he sent me rock, there were some things that I wanted changed. So I DM'd him back, and it was like a week of him just being excited that I was messaging him back. It's like a whole week, I can't believe you're messaging me. Oh, yeah, what do you want? And I'd reply. It's like, oh my god, I'm talking to some manager. Okay, what do you want? And so that happened back and forth because we weren't talking consistently. So I'd reply today and then I wouldn't reply again until tomorrow. So and then we did a little FaceTime and he did rock, he sent me the beat, and I changed some bits, and then I jumped in my car and I was driving, and I was like, This song's bad. Yeah, this this rhythm is bad. So I was like, what am I doing? And I was only I was only A46. If I'm not mistaken, I was only A46, which is my go-to place, and I'm driving and I was just rocking. Uh, you did there. Yeah, and I'm thinking, okay, I make music for girls, what can I do? Hey, that girl I want you rock, rock, rock, pony. So I wrote the whole song. I wrote the whole song in the car. Yeah, and then I gave it to Marley. Yeah. So I wrote the whole song and I gave it to Marley. And then uh it was supposed to be me, Marley, and Squeeche. And Squeechey didn't turn up to the studio, but Marley did. Okay. So I made Marley write his verse on spot in the studio. And he did. Yeah, he did. He did. He wrote it and it wasn't up to standard. And he recorded it and then we rewrote it. Yeah. And he he did a better job. And then we went in and he chilled it out. Yeah. So I think Rock is me. Island Gal is his. Yes. Yeah, Rock is me. This is correct. Yeah, Rock is mine. Supernatural feature in Marley. Yeah, Rock is me. Yeah, exactly. That's what I've written on here, but I don't know why. I put Marley on that and I enjoyed that song actually. I really enjoyed that song.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And I mean, like I said before, it's my favorite. Yeah. I really like that rhythm. I do. So that's why I want to have it to be a rhythm because it should be broader anyway. Nah, I'm not sharing it. I mean, you already did, but Jaguar chased that song.
SPEAKER_08Jaguar chased that song for a year and a half.
SPEAKER_03Fair enough. I understand that though.
SPEAKER_08Jaguar chase. He's like, what going on with that rhythm?
SPEAKER_02Oh my goodness. Here we go.
SPEAKER_08But that's my bro, man. I don't really, I don't like to water down my work, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if a if a producer hits me and a producer's like, this is gonna be a rhythm, then if the if the if the rhythm is good, I'm happy to jump on it. Okay, great. Also, if you've got good relationships with people. So sometimes the rhythm is okay, but I've got a good relationship with you, so I'll give you a song in it. Yeah, yeah. But my work that I've done, like rock or jiggle or anything that's a single, people will chase me for the beat.
SPEAKER_03So are you more a single person or a rhythm person? I'm I'm hearing a single rhythm. I just have to like the beat.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, but but you mentioned you don't want to water it down, right?
SPEAKER_08If it's a single, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So, okay. So if if there's a beat with potential to be a rhythm, like rock, and you have a song with a channel.
SPEAKER_08I won't I won't make it like a rhythm. No, I'll lock it down. It'd have to be somebody that I'm very much interested to work with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's worth it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It wouldn't, I wouldn't just open it for the sake of I like it. See, I never thought about it that way. Because for me, I'm picky. Yeah, no, I don't I wouldn't call it picky. It's more of a I still wouldn't call it I was gonna say protecting your creativity in a way. I mean you can put it that way, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It sounds a bit selfish if I say it like that, but it's more of a a guard between like just having five songs because I understand a rhythm, I like rhythms, because if you have a good rhythm, if you you got a couple like two or three good songs on it, you can play it in a club and it will be a vibe, you know? But then again, if it's just one good song and the rest is shit, then the others are not contributing to anything. So I like it. Okay, nice.
SPEAKER_06Number two.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Number two, we have Jiggle.
SPEAKER_06Jiggle is your latest release. Am I correct? Correct. Is my last release, yeah. Wonderful stuff. You've recently recorded a music video for it, but you haven't put that music video out because I'm saying that because I have a little cameo in it, which you guys will see at the moment.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so you okay, hold on, pause.
SPEAKER_06Put my little thing.
SPEAKER_03Pause in the way of wait, I need to ask you some questions.
SPEAKER_06Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03So you're part of some songs.
SPEAKER_06What do you I'm not a part of a song. I was just I'm like a video vixen.
SPEAKER_08You're a video vixen. Not very vixen, I'm more like a I'd rather you said you're a part of a song, bruv, than say you're a video vixen. I'd rather tell it, bruv. Video haul.
SPEAKER_06Wow.
SPEAKER_08No, man, you're just a part of the song, you're part of the song. You're a part of the project.
SPEAKER_06I was part of the pro I like it.
SPEAKER_03Part of the project. Anyway, you know what? Questions for another time. Please. You can interview her. I'm telling you, I will. She has stats, bro. After because you your time is valuable, you know. I don't want to interview her when you're sitting here.
SPEAKER_08I don't blame you, but I'm here for it.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, no, no. We're not gonna do that. We're gonna talk about we're gonna talk about Jiggle.
SPEAKER_08Enzo again.
SPEAKER_06Oh yes, Enzo is the producer.
SPEAKER_08Enzo sent me a beat. So I said, like that story of me meeting Enzo, he's 18. I I took a I gave him a shot. Yeah. So Enzo's career has blossomed because of the work that we've done, but he was pretty much unknown prior to rock, and we did uh he sent me a bunch of other beats. Um, I did another song with him called Pat It Up, and I said to him, You release that, do what you want with it. Yeah, and then I said to him, No, he hit me up and he does this thing where he goes, Hey bro, because he's French, so he just he's he's hey bro, like yo, what's up? No, that's what he says. Oh, okay. Literally, you know, he goes, Hey bro, that's that cool. And he says, I got these rhythms and um I want to send them to you. So he sends me four rhythms, and Jiggle is the one that stands out to me. So I says to him, I'm gonna take that. But Jiggle, it this the version that you guys hear is the second version. So the first version, it hit me, it had all the characteristics that I liked, but it didn't it didn't slap the way I wanted it to slap.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08So I told him to send me the stems, and me and Vibes came to is it this part no West West London Pirate Studio, and we reorganized the whole thing. We emptied it out, emptied it out, we rebuilt it, and Jiggle version 2 was born. Nice. Yeah, so there's a version on Enzo's like Enzo's creation, uh-huh, and there's a version of Enzo Vibes and Me.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And that's the one that came out. That's the one that I went with, yeah. Nice. So let's have a listen.
SPEAKER_06Let's go.
SPEAKER_03I'm not playing.
SPEAKER_06Oh boy. Well, let's have a listen to Jiggle.
SPEAKER_01And the one spot jiggle, ticket, go take a ticket. One stuff, they go tick, but the cocktail, red, ride, ride, ride, ride, pump, pump, and five, five, five, five, five, five.
SPEAKER_08And it's my send you a ride, rap.
SPEAKER_09Take up the balls, I'm ride, ride, rap, rap. Shut your mouth, dead fuck yellow. Beat with your beat till the black broke yellow. No, but I'll come here with your dead fuck yeah. In your stomach like belly ring. Come on, your titties, then your rubbitine, but motherfucky. Oh, your mean and stuff, mistakes, big a lot of your brain, make your brain.
SPEAKER_06So that was Jiggle. Big, big, big, weak tune. And number one, I obviously chose number one. Obviously. The people them who have been listening will know why it's number one. But number one, no. Hello, hi. I'm talking. Stop.
SPEAKER_03Excuse me, excuse me, sorry.
SPEAKER_06Hello, can we stop? Thank you. Number one, we chose Wild and Freaky on the Van Grime Rhythm. Everybody knows Van Grime Rhythm is one of my favourites because my favourite ever song is on that rhythm. But this song is strong. Oh, that rhymes. The song is strong. Wild and freaky.
SPEAKER_03If you have some studio time left, then maybe.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. I mean.
SPEAKER_03See it rhymes and also.
SPEAKER_06Can we can we just have a little listen? Yes. Please.
SPEAKER_03Let's have a little listen.
SPEAKER_06There we go.
SPEAKER_03Wild and freaky.
SPEAKER_10Freaky girl. See to the eating. Jalvin over get wild and freaky. I think that we're doing a dominating tight and pretty. Pretty pussy committing me. I told my first girl, you feel putting a dicky. You know I get laughs. Like I'm gonna let my hit up with the camera. If I'm starting to see your winning light, you need to be covered.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I like this one too. Yeah. It's it's banging. It is banging.
SPEAKER_06Big June. Big June. I mean We're a little bit pushed for time now. I would say, had that song come about, but are you able to just summarise and like you and RKO are like similar? You love to chat. Love to chat.
SPEAKER_08But I want to know. I want to know details. What did you bring me here for? We're gonna have to push me to interview me. Well, you don't need a summation.
SPEAKER_06Just gonna have to do it apart, apart this. Let's run with it. Let's run with it.
SPEAKER_08It's over with it. What did you bring me here for? You've been chasing. I want a full story. I want a full story. Well, you know.
SPEAKER_06No, but he already told us. You you already told us how it came about. Jaguar hit you up, Kai hit you up, you got the beat, and then you recorded. He said he he wanted you to do what you do, and you did what you did. And that's how the song came about. Said it already. Is there anything you want to add?
SPEAKER_08I don't think you want me to add anything. If I'm honest with you, I don't think you want me to. I kind of feel the same, but we know it. I don't think you further want me to say anything so I'm just gonna I'm gonna be quiet until I have permission to speak. Wow. Because um this podcast is a bit uh it's a bit aggressive. So it's a bit hostile.
SPEAKER_06Is there anything you would like to add?
SPEAKER_08I feel like that's not a genuine question.
SPEAKER_06Let me no, you wouldn't like to add anything else?
SPEAKER_08See?
SPEAKER_03No, no, okay, no, okay, no, no, no. Is there anything no no no? I want to hear the full story. Just say it again.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no. We're not gonna say the whole story again. There's no point. Is there anything you want to add that you've not mentioned already about the song?
SPEAKER_08Um, it's a good song. It's a good song. I'm gonna summarise, isn't it?
SPEAKER_06Because you don't want me to say, no, it is, it is, it is a very good song.
SPEAKER_08I like Soka Chronicles. Any other questions?
SPEAKER_06Our question to you is we ask this question to everybody who takes part in our podcast. If you could be stuck in an elevator.
SPEAKER_08No, it's not that one.
SPEAKER_06It changed. It changed. I didn't change it. Nah, here it's still. That's not why it changed, it just changed. Um that's a good one though. I think it's a fantastic one. I think it's good, then ask it. No, I'm not gonna ask it because it's changed now.
SPEAKER_08Uh why is it changed too?
SPEAKER_06If you were stuck, if you could be stuck in a studio with any soaker artist dead or alive, who would it be and why?
SPEAKER_08Ooh, dead or alive, yeah. Interesting. Um alive would have to be Bungie. You knew it, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I was gonna say that's never gonna change. Yeah, for me, Bungie is the greatest lyricist across soaker, across dancehall. Obviously, there's people in dance hall that are excellent. Vives Cartel is the best lyricist in the world, but in the Caribbean is Bungie and Vibes Cartel. So if I'm stuck in a studio, I'm I'm I'm gonna be stuck with Bungie. And it's gonna be a short session because I don't think he writes nothing. So it's gonna be, he's gonna record and leave. And I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna sit there with his vocals and just Vikings. I'm gonna play them two stabs over Vikings in a that's gonna be the song. It's because uh you're not gonna hear nothing from me. It's just Viking the end. Yeah, bungee, and that's that's a live.
SPEAKER_06Just just one, it's just one YouTube.
SPEAKER_08Oh, you can't choose a dead one. No, okay. You just choose one. Yeah, it'll be Bungie. I would I would have chosen a dead one. I'm still interested in adapting.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, no, no. No. This is what people do. They come up on this podcast and just give me a bungee's in. But I can I pick two? Nah, no.
SPEAKER_08I just thought it would make sense to have pay homage to someone that's passed away.
SPEAKER_06You choose, because maybe there's one alive that you you know is not the one that you really like to work with. Maybe it's somebody like blacks or whatever would have been your favourite. That's what I'm saying, dead in your life. Okay.
SPEAKER_08Bungie. But I think there's a lot of artists that's passed away that we would have liked to work with that we wouldn't get the chance to work with. So that's why I would have said someone that passed away. But nah, no, no, live.
SPEAKER_03But you're still not saying the name.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we're not we're not.
SPEAKER_08Nah, he doesn't she doesn't want me to say the name. Yeah, so it's fine.
SPEAKER_06It's not it's not the direction we're going in. Okay. I just want one. Oh shut up. Please, thank you.
SPEAKER_08That would be uh it would be bungee, 100% bungee. Yeah. And it's an excellent choice.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, bungee's the greatest. You're not the first person who said bungee. Nor the last person.
SPEAKER_07Who else said bungee?
SPEAKER_06Was it not um couple? Culture man, no, yeah. I'm sure he said bungee, and he mentioned Mashell as well, I believe. Oh no. And I want to go into that, but I should. I believe he said Bungie. Okay, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. No, there's there's a lot of bungees.
SPEAKER_08Uh Mashell's a fantastic artist, but he doesn't appeal to me to wanna. I mean, if he reached out and was like, hey, I want a verse, then I wouldn't say no. Of course not. But I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't pick up the phone and go, I want to do a feature. Yeah, yeah. I'd probably get to a few people before him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Fair enough. Bungie being one of them.
SPEAKER_08Bungie being the top of the list, mate. Yeah, the top of the list. Yeah, yeah, top of the list.
SPEAKER_06Fair enough. Well, we've got connections. We'll see if we can make it happen.
SPEAKER_03Definitely, definitely, definitely.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, inshallah, Safrullah, Bismillah, Alhamdulillah. Yeah. Do your thing.
SPEAKER_06All of that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Come to the Habibi, come to Dubai. So I have a question for you lot then.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's interesting. That's a good question.
SPEAKER_08You lot keep asking man questions, and you lot don't want man to ask you a lot of questions. Kind of one-way podcast is this. Anyway, so my question to you is why didn't I get to choose one of my favourite songs?
SPEAKER_06Because that's not how it goes. Okay.
SPEAKER_03No, that's that's that's that's a stupid no. Okay, what would be your number one owned song?
SPEAKER_09See, she's she's a hater. She's a hater.
SPEAKER_06How am I a hater? It's just not how it goes. We don't let you choose your favourite. We choose our top three. But I'm so interested though.
SPEAKER_08But it was a question. It was a question of why don't I get to choose my own? Yeah, because you can have your top three. Why can't I have mine?
SPEAKER_06Because that's not how it works. Okay.
SPEAKER_08Who made the rules?
SPEAKER_06I made the rules.
SPEAKER_08I understand.
SPEAKER_06Because I'm the boss lady.
SPEAKER_08Okay, boss vet. Say nothing.
SPEAKER_03So the employee of the boss lady wants to know what's your top three then.
SPEAKER_08My favourite song of mine is undoubtedly Bacchas.
SPEAKER_03Really? Okay. 100%.
SPEAKER_06My girl said, Good for your bacas.
SPEAKER_03Can we still have a listen to that?
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_06Actually, no, because Jaguar has a song on that rhythm. Active. So yeah, we can.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's the reason why we can?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because if it crosses into this is a soaker podcast.
SPEAKER_08That is crazy.
SPEAKER_06So podcast. Why am I here then? Because you you you've made songs with so artists and you DJ within the soca scene. That's why you're here, B. If not, you wouldn't have made it.
SPEAKER_08But we can't play your songs.
SPEAKER_06We wouldn't have made the cut.
SPEAKER_08We're gonna play back us. Let's have a listen. Let's go.
SPEAKER_06Let's go.
SPEAKER_08We're going, we go in. Lia this. All already. All already, all already. You sure see you already? Come up front, come brock off body. Step in a deckle, you know, being like nothing. My girl, step good for your back cats. Turn around, gal ready for your backcut. Maneuver now, step good for the backers. Face down, but the up in the air for the backcuts. My girl, if you know, see you're pretty walk round with your friend, cause the hole I want to step. Every man gets a watch you like TV. But me wanna slid in like a speedy. Skin smooth, bump abroad. You look good. Oh my god. Put the printers firm in a draft. In a your mini skirt, all your pum pom shots. My girl, step good for the bucket.
SPEAKER_01Turn around, gal ready for the bucket. Ben over now, step good for the buckas. Face down.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, baccas is my favourite. Um, mainly because I wrote that song after writing. And it was my first transition into a proper song. Okay. So it's still not a fully structured song. But I enjoyed that process of finding a beat, my own beat, and then it just the process of making that song something. Yeah, nice. I enjoyed that.
SPEAKER_02Nice.
SPEAKER_08My other song of mine probably would be Roll.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_08Roll. I was a big fan. I like Roll. I like the beat. That was my first transition into soccer. Okay. Yeah. With creeks. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That was my first transition into I'm gonna I'm gonna play a couple of seconds of that song just to get a feeling of it.
SPEAKER_08Set good for your buckers. Hame sef is it, don't pun it till it broke.
SPEAKER_09Brook, set up yourself and walk. Hame said, me have a nine-inch cock. So girl back it up like a truck.
SPEAKER_08What the f that was I loved writing that song. And my third favourite song, which is quite annoying, but it's not complete. It's coconut.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_08It's not complete, why not? We never got back to finishing the beat, mean vibes. So to me it sounds hollow. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So why don't you want to re-release it?
SPEAKER_08I do we released it twice. So it was a single, and then it became a rhythm.
SPEAKER_03So we I released the single. The rhythm is also the beat that misses some hot this hollow.
SPEAKER_08The beat is hollow. Yeah. So everyone that's on the rhythm to me is hollow.
SPEAKER_03Quite sure.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. And um I'm annoyed with that because we never got back to it, and I just I don't feel like going back to it now. Yeah. I don't feel like touching that now. And Bacchas as well turned into a rhythm, which is also why I like that. Because Bakaz had quite a strong cast, which is probably the first thing that I had done on my own with vibes that we turned into a UK international project, which was fantastic. Because then that rhythm was sought after by quite a few Martinique and Guadeloupean artists. Yes. Nice. The French Caribbean loved that rhythm. And then Belly Dancer went viral, which is another one that I did, being Vibes did. So yeah, then Jaguar. When Jaguar heard that, when I did Bacchas, Jaguar heard that rhythm the year I put that rhythm out. And he wanted that rhythm. And I said no. I said no.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that was what, 2019. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08I said no.
SPEAKER_03Jaguar has been struggling to get beats off you.
SPEAKER_08Well, everyone, really. It's just him I mentioned, but it's this everyone that asks me for beats. Uh if I use the beats, I don't share them. Yeah. But if somebody sends me a beat and I like the beat, but I haven't done anything, you can have it. Yeah. I think I find it frustrating that when I create something and I put something out, then somebody wants to ride that wave to step up on that.
SPEAKER_03I don't like that. Yeah, fair enough.
SPEAKER_08And I don't think that's what Jaguar's doing. I think Jaguar hears the song as like, yo, I can see myself on that rhythm. And that rhythm may not have reached him, but because I've already done something on it, I'm not gonna, I don't want you to overshadow what I've done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08So a year or two later, you can have it, which will bring the whole rhythm back to life again.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_08What's doing in Barbados activities? But Jaguars my boy, like I he's a really good artist and he's a great DJ. When I was in Barbados, he looked after man. Yeah, so he's a great guy. So he can have whatever rhythms have. We've got two projects planned up that we're supposed to be sorting on, but I just I'm just funny like that. I don't necessarily share my rhythms with everyone. If I've done something on it, you could have done it. Why didn't you do it? Yeah, you know what I mean? I built backers from nothing. It took me nine months to put that rhythm into the stratosphere. Nine months I played that rhythm everywhere, consistently. I remember people telling me, Why are you always starting with that rhythm? It's boring. And then everyone's like, Oh my god, she looked good. Oh my god. Everyone starts singing that part now. But it took me a long time to put that out, so I'm very connected to that work. So now when someone's like, yo, give me that rhythm, do you understand how much? You know what I mean? For me to just part with that and just be like, Yeah, you go. Yeah, it's just nah. So those are probably my three favorites, yeah. Production-wise, as well, because me and Vibes built those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We built Backers, we built Coconut and Creeks built roll. Yeah. And outside of that would be rock. Yeah. Because I had fun, I have fun recording that song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can hear it at the end. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But the whole you can you can hear it through the whole song.
SPEAKER_08And I leave, I leave, I'll leave it in. Yeah, I leave all of it in. All of my nonsense I leave in. I love it. Because I don't think music should be so serious. Yeah, no, I guess. I agree. Yeah. So that's my favorite.
SPEAKER_03Alright, a very important question. Where can people find you on Instagram or that social media?
SPEAKER_08Everything is uh at Super Nitro. Okay. S-U-P-A-N-Y-T-R-O.com or.uk. Either. They both lead to the same place.
SPEAKER_03Nice. So I'm just gonna spread out slowly. S-U-P-A-H. No, no, H. Yeah. You want to add numbers here?
SPEAKER_06One. Add numbers. N-Y-T-R-O. That's me. At Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_08Dead accent with an extra. What was that? So all social medias, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook is Super Nitro. S U P A N Y T R O, was the French would say.
SPEAKER_06Super Nitro. So if you're listening in French, it's Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_08You say French. Yeah. You say French.
SPEAKER_06Did I say French? I meant France.
SPEAKER_08We know what you meant.
SPEAKER_03Ah we know what you meant.
SPEAKER_08Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_06Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_03Supernatro has been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. It's been long overdue.
SPEAKER_06It's not been a pleasure. I've not enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_03It's been a pleasure for at least one of us.
SPEAKER_08You're welcome, my brother. You're welcome. You're welcome, sir. No problem, man. No problem.
SPEAKER_03No, I like I like this discussion.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no, I'm playing. I know. I'm yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah?
SPEAKER_06I've been a victim. I've been a victim, but it's okay. Like, all in the name of banter, I'm a team player and I'm a good sport. So, super natural. Thank you for blessing us with your presence. 100%. We've really appreciated it. You know? It's been fun. It's been very fun.
SPEAKER_03It has been.
SPEAKER_08I hear you, man. I hear you, man. It's been it's been a I mean, this between myself and Arkeo has been good. It's been a good conversation. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_08The other podcaster is a bit mad for him. She's a bit mad for me. You need to check check yourself before you wreck yourself.
SPEAKER_06I hear it.
unknownI hear it.
SPEAKER_06But that's okay. That's okay.
SPEAKER_08I got on, man. The other podcaster, we're not gonna mention any names. They messaged me and they was like, oh, is there any stacks you would like for us to provide for the podcast and stuff? No, I was like, yeah, just make sure there's some stuff here in it. I see table and water.
SPEAKER_06No, I brought popcorn. There's popcorn in the bank.
SPEAKER_08We're supposed to just be clouting popcorn in the people in the microphone. There's a greenery. So my favorite is I'm gonna boycrain wild choice of sweetness. Wild choice of snackage, bro. You get me? Oh boy. But I heard that still, man. I heard that. No, it's been a pleasure to be here, man. 100%. We appreciate it on the appreciated it.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we're gonna put a link to your social, your Instagram anyway.
SPEAKER_08At Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_06And we can put a link to your website as well. Supernatural. We'll do that. And you have an event.
SPEAKER_0830th of June. I love Soaker Meets back it up. You guys get your tickets for that one, it's gonna be a good look.
SPEAKER_06That is the day that this podcast gets released.
SPEAKER_08So double whammy.
SPEAKER_06Yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_08Tonight you have a plan though.
SPEAKER_06There we go. If you're listening now, you have a plan tonight.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_06Get it.
SPEAKER_08Double whammy, man. So guys, make sure you check out Soaker Chronicles, tag a friend, tell a friend, share the podcast, let people know that this exists because it's good for the culture, it's good for the vibe, it's good for the energy, it's educational, it's fun, it's funny, it's plentiful, and it's good for you to just know a little bit about the people that's making your music and the people that you're involved with listening to. So, on behalf of myself, Super Nitro, RKO, and DJ Shans, we're gonna wrap up this podcast. Thank you guys very much for listening. God bye, God bless, and have a great night, day, morning, wherever you are in this universe. See ya.
SPEAKER_05So, yeah, what an interesting guy.
SPEAKER_03That's uh Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_06Super Nitro.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's excellent. You got that accent on, I don't know my dinglish accent. Yeah, well in in a mirror by myself, but not not not on the sh on the radio though, not on the show.
SPEAKER_06God damn, goddamn.
SPEAKER_03God damn, nah, that was that was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_06It was fun, even though I got clowned. You know. I mean Because nobody rates my life, you know, everybody's just like fuck chance. Nah, I rate your life.
SPEAKER_03I rate your life. I rated 10 out of 10.
SPEAKER_06Nah, nah, nah.
SPEAKER_03Would life again.
unknownNah.
SPEAKER_06If you rated my life, you wouldn't have laughed at me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you laughed at me as well.
SPEAKER_06Hello.
SPEAKER_03Hi.
SPEAKER_06No. It's not about you, it's about me right now.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I should like you know what? Sorry. My bad, my bad. I hear that. I hear that. Thank you.
SPEAKER_06No, it is what it is. All in the name of Ban uh, you know me. You know, I've got a waste of a boxy, you know a Powerpuff girl, like what the fuck, like Oh, I should be laughing.
SPEAKER_03My bad, my bad.
SPEAKER_06God damn. I mean, shit. Nah. That is what it is. But yeah, I enjoyed it though, regardless.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's all we have for this week. This month, even.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because you lot love to chat too much, that's why. God damn.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I do love to chat, that's true. I mean, that's why it's hard to spotcast in the first place.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I know, but then you met your match with Soup and Archer. We have a chat. This is true. Oh god. But yeah, man. So thank you everybody for tuning in once again to this episode. We're creeping ever closer to two years. Oh my god. Yeah. So we gotta we gotta have something special planned. I don't know what yet.
SPEAKER_03Uh me neither, but we need to do find something.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Also, before we go, can I just let people know that my cropover 2023 warm-up mix has dropped. Yeah. So please check that out on my SoundCloud. Um, soundcloud.com forward slash DJ Shans. My track list is so long I wasn't able to put it in the description.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit.
SPEAKER_06Of the mix. So what I've done is I've made some artwork with the track list on it, and you'll find that on my Instagram at DJ Shans. That's DJ S H A R N Z please and thanks.
SPEAKER_03I like it.
SPEAKER_06Yes, please.
SPEAKER_03Excellent. With that, I will wish everybody a happy month.
SPEAKER_06Please.
SPEAKER_03The next episode will be dropping the last Friday of the month as usual, but by that time we are chilling, liming, vibing, fetting in Barbados.
SPEAKER_06Barbados.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, and then the the episode of August, we will tell you everything about our experience in Barbados.
SPEAKER_06There we go. Exactly that.
SPEAKER_03Like, share, and uh we will see you next time.
SPEAKER_06Yes, take care, be safe. And until next month.
SPEAKER_03Until next month. Bye-bye. Bye.
SPEAKER_05You've been listening to the Soka Chronicles Chronicles.